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that is, but I'd give you the benefit that they're working through kind of what it is. That being <br /> said, the C-F district straight up doesn't apply either as I said with the boat zoning or boat lot <br /> type of thing. That's the only one I can remember as I'm on the spot. <br /> Commissioner Nagler: I don't have any further comments. <br /> Commissioner Balch: I'm going to add which is my other, which is, they designed for a drive- <br /> thru so at least that one cannot be conditional, right? If you have a drive-thru you've got to <br /> figure out if it's conditional or permitted at the start right? So my one comment is the one <br /> mentioned earlier but you clarified it. <br /> Commissioner Allen: So I'm okay with the uses. I think it makes sense to look to see if there's <br /> some additional ones that are C-F and I think if there is a drive-thru it needs to be conditional, <br /> and I say that because Gerry and Julie you mentioned that the Starbucks...that something else <br /> could go into Starbucks that may have a different demand and we need to also have <br /> conditions that protect us against that. <br /> Commissioner Nagler: I agree with that. <br /> Commissioner O'Connor: So initially before it was circled they didn't have a drive-thru so I was <br /> okay. I thought that they restricted themselves somewhat with the big circle, but I did hear <br /> them say earlier that they didn't mean to be as restrictive so we'd have to see what the new list <br /> is proposed. At this point, I'm not supportive of the drive-thru. <br /> Commissioner Balch: The difficulty is that we just had an informational staff presentation about <br /> redoing the zoning or the readability of the zoning code so when I read this again I thought, oh, <br /> now I remember why exactly we went back to doing that plan. <br /> Chair Ritter: So my thinking is the types of businesses that we want to get in there demand <br /> parking for customers that will be within an hour or an hour and one-half, so as long as the <br /> zoning is appropriate to those needs I think that would keep the turning of the business <br /> working for that location. So C-F, C-S, whatever one of those keeps that kind of business <br /> should go in. <br /> E. What other information would assist the Planning Commission in its decision on the <br /> proposal (e.g., additional photo simulations). Do you have any other comments on the <br /> project? <br /> Commissioner Brown: I'm just going to reiterate my earlier comment. The Johnson Drive <br /> spillback worries me as it relates to the other two drive-thru's and going back to the prior point, <br /> I think Greg described it well in terms of expressing the additional concerns on the uses <br /> because they said they didn't need to be that restrictive and they'll revisit that. <br /> Commissioner Nagler: I don't really have any additional comments other than to say this <br /> project obviously requires more conversation. The general use of the site I think is a good <br /> concept towards a higher purpose, but that we obviously need to see a lot more. As far as the <br /> Commission, it might be helpful if we saw more computer renderings. <br /> Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 18 of 20 <br /> over. So it's truly a new zoning with a PUD element and I question that and question how far <br /> Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 17 of 20 <br /> <br />e okay with no B. I just want to say as a principle because of <br /> the need to easily access the parking I don't actually have a problem with the B lot being in the <br /> front. <br /> Commissioner Brown: Put simply it seems like if the desire to have the drive-thru doesn't fit in <br /> a design if after 20 iterations that it isn't a perfect for the property. I don't know how else to put <br /> it, whether its 11 or 12 and I'm not even trying to design it because I'm sure after 20 iterations <br /> Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 14 of 20 <br />ally <br /> can't take another 20 feet for that 12th car out of the depth of Building B because then we're <br /> looking at a building's that probably 20 feet deep or we have to severely carve into the corner <br /> Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 9 of 20 <br />ructural control such as an oil/water separator or sand filter. No other area shall <br /> P16-1349 and PUD-121 Planning Commission <br /> Page 11 of 19 <br />