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matter of two or three feet. So I think we ought to expect decent landscaping especially if parking stays in front so there's a little bit of a buffer. Commissioner Nagler: So just could I say, to be fair to the applicant, the small setback is a response to staff's desire that some of it be on Owens. Commissioner O'Connor: When we've got a lot of trees in, I'm coming from personal experience, you've got to be careful with trees and where they go because you can get trees that are perfectly sized to block all of your tenants' signage and that's exactly what an owner of a retail establishment does not want. Commissioner Allen: That's a good point. So we've got a balancing act here. Let me just ask—do you agree or do you not agree that it would be nice to have a little more landscaping, and I'm specifically talking about....assuming we have parking in front. That's the main area because right now if you look at the spot, there's actually bushes. There's grass and there's bushes so you actually don't see the front of the cars at the Denny's lot as much. Commissioner Balch: My only comment to that is, I would want it so that someone walking on the sidewalk can get into there safely. From where those points are and how they denote them I don't.... Commissioner Allen: It's this here which is pretty sparse. Commissioner O'Connor: As long as it's not so tall you can't see through. Chair Ritter: It's got to be an inviting lot without blocking. Commissioner Allen: Exactly. Chair Ritter: I'm also in favor. I think if we can't move the buildings forward to get the drive- thru up to 12 or 13 spaces for the queueing line, I'm okay with removing the tree and not charging. I think the queueing line is the key. D. Does the Planning Commission support the proposed uses? Commissioner Balch: I do not. Here's why and Galen mentioned that they hadn't necessarily examined it so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on that. But given the proposed current zoning that's C-F and you look at the C-C circled, and again, I understand that they're restricted so they may add some additional as they kind of flow through the process. There's barely a throw of C-F uses on the C-C's they circled. In fact, it's a little hard because the C-F zoning is for like a boat lot and you know, a large retail camping store and all the things that draw people off of the freeway and into their lot which this particular lot will not have an auto dealership type of thing that will draw people off of the freeway. But, when I looked at the permitted uses circled and the uses not circled, I think they have some work to do to determine exactly what they're going to allow on the lot. You know, it is a lot of restaurant and retail. The retail is like nails, hair, things like that circled, and you kind of get the idea that bars are out and things like that. But, generally my comment is that you're a C-F straight up zoning, you're circled or permitted items requested on your PUD there's not one from the C-F that comes over. So it's truly a new zoning with a PUD element and I question that and question how far Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 17 of 20 e okay with no B. I just want to say as a principle because of the need to easily access the parking I don't actually have a problem with the B lot being in the front. Commissioner Brown: Put simply it seems like if the desire to have the drive-thru doesn't fit in a design if after 20 iterations that it isn't a perfect for the property. I don't know how else to put it, whether its 11 or 12 and I'm not even trying to design it because I'm sure after 20 iterations Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 14 of 20 ally can't take another 20 feet for that 12th car out of the depth of Building B because then we're looking at a building's that probably 20 feet deep or we have to severely carve into the corner Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 9 of 20 ructural control such as an oil/water separator or sand filter. No other area shall P16-1349 and PUD-121 Planning Commission Page 11 of 19