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Chairperson Ellgas indicated that she did not wish to give up any park space, and would like to see access to development on both Vineyard Avenue and Kottinger Drive. She would also like to see ajoint-use community center, with separate parking areas for the seniors and the center. Commissioner Ellgas felt confident that the City could maintain acottage-like atmosphere while building a modern new development, and also felt that if tearing down Regalia House was necessary to accomplish this, then it should be torn down. Commissioner Ritter felt the Task Force had done a great job, and agreed with Mr. Fiedler's comment that "it's not if, it's when" this change has to be made. He also agreed that making decisions about Kottinger Place needed to also include decisions about Pleasanton Gardens, and what should be done with Regalia House. Commissioner Ritter further discussed the parking issue, and thought it would be a key to having a plan that did not eliminate park space. Commissioner Kinzer liked the idea of not decreasing park space, especially since it is such a well used park. He was concerned with impacts to parking for the facility and the park, and was somewhat concerned about tearing down Regalia House; however, he would be amiable to considering that option. Commissioner Kinzer also had concerns regarding amulti-use Community Center. Commissioner Dibiase agreed with the other Commissioners that he did not want to relinquish parkland. He had some concerns about joint-use of the Community Center. He liked the concept, but felt implementation would be difficult given the amount of use at Regalia House. Commissioner Dibiase also felt that shared parking could be an issue, and vehicular access from both Vineyard Avenue and Kottinger Drive could be worked out. With regard to three-story buildings, he felt it might free up some real estate that could be used for parking and an additional Community Center. Commissioner Kummer raised questions regarding use of Regalia House, and whether those uses could be accommodated somewhere else. He did not see the necessity of maintaining this as a historical building, and could be swayed either way. Commissioner Kummer stated that he would definitely like to see access from both Vineyard Avenue and Kottinger Drive. He also provided details of a conversation with a Pleasanton Police Officer, who had advised him of a preference not to have shared parking. He would also like to see the parking area lit. Commissioner Kummer stated that he liked the interaction of Kottinger Place and the park, and would not like to lose any of the parkland. Commissioner Pentin agreed with the other Commissioners about not losing park space; however, in scenario 4.1, a total of .6 acre and 22 parking spaces are lost with Regalia House. He suggested that the Commission direct the Task Force to look at another available plan that had not been presented at this meeting, which encroaches on the park by .23 of an acre but leaves Regalia House and includes access from Vineyard Avenue. Commissioner Pentin also suggested that the consultant do a little additional work, and develop a plan that would work and meet everyone's needs. He expressed concerns about the multi-use Community Center, and how seniors could be told that that they can't use the facility. He agreed with Commissioner Kummer about the need to keep parking separate. Mr. Bocian indicated that the Task Force was just beginning to look at the issues, were very aware of the challenges, and very interested in hearing the comments and recommendations of the Commission. He reviewed comments that he had heard, which included: 1) not to lose any park space, 2) the importance of joint vehicle access from Vineyard Avenue and Kottinger Drive, 3) compatibility of the housing Parks and Recreation Commission Minutes October 11, 2007 Page 6