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Mr. Thorne asked if the Illustrative Site Plan and the Grand Park plan were integrated together? Mr. Rasmussen said yes. Ms. McGovern referred to the Sub-Area Land Use Plan and asked how many acres were sub-area one and two as it appeared that the Cultural Arts Center used to be in the Community Park and now it looked like it was removed. Mr. Rasmussen said the Cultural Arts Center has always been independent of the Community Park. The first Community Park Master Plan that the Task Force prepared for that area had a civic arts center, which was a minor facility as compared to this much larger cultural facility that was discussed by the Bernal Property Task Force. Ms. McGovern asked if the initiative to Save Our Community Park stated the arts complex could be in the community park area. Mr. Rasmussen did not believe the initiative directly stated that but the area the initiative preserved for the Community Park included more than 50 acres and, therefore, the extra acreage allowed for the Cultural Arts Center to be included within that reserved area as well as other uses. Ms. McGovern asked Mr. Rasmussen if he was stating that Sub-Area Two was not currently scheduled to be voted on by the public because it was within Phase One but Sub-Area One, which has the Cultural Arts Facility, is subject to voter approval? Mr. Rasmussen said the only thing that is excluded from a vote of the community would be the Bernal Community Park and the Cultural Arts Center, agricultural uses and open spaces and any other uses are not shown within the Plan and therefore would be included in the area to be voted upon. Ms. McGovern said her main concern was that this property was being broken into two separate parks, which she did not believe should happen. There should be one Bernal Community Park and she believed the plans should be together. If the only way to do it is to say the entire area is voted on, then the entire area should be voted on by the community otherwise she believed it was confusing to the public. She referred to the Illustrative Site Plan and asked if Sub-Areas AA (pretreated marsh) and EE (existing wetlands) appeared somewhat in blue to illustrate the appearance of water features. Mr. Rasmussen said yes. Ms. McGovern referenced the Illustrative Site Plan and suggested that another choice for Sub-Area JJ (Park & Ride) could be an open space area next to Bernal Avenue to give a feeling of openness instead of a parking lot. Mr. Rasmussen pointed out that Sub-Area 12 of the Land Use Plan did allow for open space, park and recreation, Park & Ride, public utilities, trails and other public uses that may be determined by Council to be compatible with the surrounding land uses. Pleasanton City Council 15 11/01/05 Minutes