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John Walsh, 29 Castledown Road, indicated he did not want lights for the sports fields. When looking at the area from the hills, it is not pleasant. He cited the parking lot at the fairgrounds as a bad example of lighting. Bob Nickeson, 4260 Pleasanton Avenue, agreed with keeping the cultural arts center near downtown. He wanted to expand the buffer zone between downtown and the lighted sports fields. He did not understand the reason for keeping open space on the south side of the property near the freeway. He felt lights, noise and activity fit better near to the freeway. He felt there was more to be gained than lost by keeping the fields near the downtown area. Vanessa Kawaihau, 871 Sycamore Road, reminded Council that the first golf course home had been approved by the Planning Commission. The Happy Valley Specific Plan EIR indicated the neighborhood park needs of the Happy Valley area were to be met by the open space of the golf course, the trails in the Happy Valley area and the community park on the Bernal property. She agreed with Mr. Nickeson that there are too many lights. She noted the 4H Club leader said there were forty families involved. She said when the 4H center is planned; there should be strict adherence to rules and guidelines to prevent stress on the land from too many animals. She wanted the 4H center open to scouts as well. Craig Moore, 1693 East Gate Way, from the Walnut Hills community, asked that the theater and cultural arts center be kept far from his neighborhood. He wondered why there would be an amphitheater next to the fairgrounds theater right across the street? He felt there could be conflict. Mayor Hosterman said there was discussion about this and felt uses could be identified that would only take place in a sunken amphitheater. Whether there is duplication of events will be part of further discussions. Mr. Moore suggested moving the theater up to the corner and moving the playing fields down a little. Mr. Sullivan referred to the first sports park design with the amphitheater odented toward that neighborhood. Mr. Wolfe said the theater was designed so that sound would move to the east, not to the west. Sound would be amplified, but there was never an intention to bring in large amplifiers, such as for rock concerts. Mr. Sullivan asked if this would be similar to the Friday night concerts in the park on First Street? Mr. Wolfe said that is the kind of event that was envisioned. There are other kinds of functions that could be in this facility, not just music. He explained this could be terraced, fixed seating. There are amphitheaters that have a concrete, stepped base, but are covered in turf to help control sound. There would be a bowl effect, which could accommodate 1,000 people. Joint Workshop City Council and Parks and Recreation Commission 4 05/12/05