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Mr. Wilson mentioned that the Engineer incorrectly calculated the number of <br />pipeline lengths and manhole covers, and as a result, what was installed was the same as <br />shown in the plans, but different than what was actually bid. <br /> <br />Mr. Brozosky asked if the bids were projected based on the plans? <br /> <br /> Mr. Grubstick stated that the bid documents included individual line items, and in <br />this particular case, the Engineer probably counted 36 manholes when in fact there were <br />39 manholes. Therefore, the Engineer miscounted. He mentioned that the contractor <br />building the project follows the plans and counts everything that it builds. In this case, <br />the contractor informed staffthat there were more manholes built than what was <br />originally estimated. The City pays the same unit rate for additional manholes but the <br />actual bid that the contract award was based on did not include all 39 manholes. <br /> <br /> Mr. Brozosky asked if this was the same situation for line item 14 where there <br />was $130,000 in DEA quantity overruns? <br /> <br /> Mr. Grubstick noted that this falls into the same category, but in that particular <br />case, it was lengths of pipe. 245 linear feet of 8" pipes were missed. <br /> <br />Mayor Pico asked if the Engineer assumed any responsibility for part of the cost? <br /> <br /> Mr. Wilson indicated that there is some responsibility placed on the Engineer in <br />terms of the plans and how correct they are. In this particular case, the mistakes are not <br />necessarily in the plans, but if identified correctly, they would have been the original bid <br />amount. Therefore, ahigher contract amount would have been realizedifthe lineitems <br />had been correctly identified. He mentioned that the City paid the same price for the <br />additional increase of pipeline that it would have paid if the correct quantifies had <br />originally been reflected. Therefore, the City ended up paying later on in the project then <br />it would have paid earlier on when the project went out for bid. <br /> <br />For clarification, Mayor Pico asked if there was any third party liability?. <br /> <br /> Mr. Wilson said there was no third party liability for line item 14. He noted that <br />in certain construction projects there might be items that were not identified in the field, <br />and in those cases, the Engineers could be held responsible. In this circumstance, the <br />City could not prove out of pocket expenses because it had to pay for these expenses one <br />way or another. It was not due to a mistake in the plans, but was due to a mistake in the <br />quantities. <br /> <br /> Mr. Grubstick pointed out that when stafffinds design flaws, it goes back to the <br />Engineer and informs him or her that it needs to be corrected. <br /> <br /> Mr. Brozosky asked if there were any design flaw errors reflected in the change <br />orders? <br /> <br />Pleasanton City Council 12 02/03/04 <br />Minutes <br /> <br /> <br />
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