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firmndal responsibility in this case? He recalled some of his experiences in Australia and the traffic circles in those neighborhoods. He saw tire tracks around the circles. The posted speeds there were 60 km, which is approximately 36 mph. One neighborhood had signs for 45 lan, which is 25 mph. This is the norm for our neighborhoods. It is a matter of educating people, from parents and kids throughout the City, through enforcement rather than any mechanical device, the need to observe the speed limits. The City could provide motor officers patrolling an area in the neighborhoods for an hour or two during the peak periods of traffic time, which are going to be school time, coming home from school, and probably around mid-day and the end of the day. He felt not a lot of traffic tickets would have to be issued to get the people to slow down because the presence of the officers would slow them down. A1 Wiemken, PO Box 969, Pleasanton, said that in his travels over the years he has seen traffic circles throughout the counu~j. The difference in those traffic circles and those that are proposed for Pleasanton is that they were originally planned, and they are large. He feels circles are an excellent thing to think about in new developments, where there is land to build it. He has concerns about the traffic circle near Martin, where the driver would actually go into the circle through what would have been the crosswalk. The second concern is on the other end when the driver would make the loop and there is the fire hydrant, which may be hit. Traffic circles do help and they did help on Kamp Street. He thought there might be a more efficient way to use the money. At Mohr- Martin there are rubber tire marks all over the streets. He would ask the City to entertain using more police enforcement. He thought the City would realize monies from fining the drivers. He said Fremont had a serious problem and they came down very hard and they have impounded cars, arrested people and imposed substantial fines on some parties. Police enforcement is needed along with radar enforcement to get people to obey and respect the law. The public hearing was closed. Ms. Ayala asked if a review was done for the stop sign in the study. Mr. van Gelder said that questionnaires were not sent out in the area, but it can certainly be done if it is the desire of the Council. Ms. Ayala said she thought this was to be a temporary stop sign. Mr. van Gelder said this was the case with other locations in town and the signs stay there until they are requested to be removed. Ms. Ayala said that Mr. Ghorhani has a point and asked if something could be done to review that stop sign location. Mr. van Gelder said he would be happy to do that. He would like some guidance of what Council would like in that review, because the City can simply ask the adjacent residents whether they would like to keep it and whether they feel it is effective. Speeds Plea~nton City Council 27 Minu~es 07/17/01