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Ms. Ayala asked about the statement in the report that said they were successful; the question reads, "I think that the devices installed are beneficial in addressing the problems experienced in our neighborhood." She said she circled those that agree, the first two, 45%; and those that disagree, the last two, 51%. Mr. van Gelder said there were questions on each individual circle and the overall one. In round terms, there are about as many people who thought it was useful as those who did not. Ms. Ayala said she would agree on that on almost all of the questions except for a few. Mr. van Gelder said what they are hearing in the phone calls is that they did not solve the problem. He said he viewed it as having a calming effect at the circle, which is probably positive and good and the neighbors would agree with this; but as soon as you go a block north of the circle, the impression is that they did not do any good. Mr. Ayala said she got calls from people in the Kamp Street area who have the circles. She actually spent an hour right by the circle with some of the neighbors. The pmbl~n was the children in the neighborhood and because of the circles the cars are weaving over into where you would normally walk across the street. The neighbors and she watched and felt it is more dangerous for the pedestrians. She saw cars going much faster than 15 miles per hour. Mr. van Gelder said there is the same perception of speed around the normal comers. If you are turning right, very rarely do you get a car that goes more than 15 miles per hour around a typical residential comer. But if you talk with the citizens, their perc~tion of how fast that car is going is much higher than 15 mph. He stated he would be happy to meet with Ms. Ayala on the Corridor, just like he does with the neighborhood speed watch and with the radar gun in hand and do some testing of these. Ms. Ayaia said she wanted to ask the rest of the Councilmembers to be sure to look at the third paragraph. She wanted to talk about the radar, because this is where the City is heading. If the speed watch approach fails, more drastic approaches such as photo radar could be applied. She asked Mr. van Gelder if he was suggesting that at this time? Mr. van Gelder said they were definitely not recommending that at this time. Ms. Ayala said if we continue down the path that we are going, the traffic circles probably haven't helped a lot; or at least half the neighborhood feels that they have not helped. Mr. van Gelder said that would be a fair statement. Half the neighborhood was concerned the circle didn't solve the problem. Ms. Ayaia asked how the staff report could say it did solve the problem Pleaaanton City Council 23 07/17/01 Minutes