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In rebuttal, Mr. Pickett disagreed with the District' s projections of the types of users for this area. He referred to the statement that this was a community service, but he did not see any benefit to the community. 0nly the District wants this project. He also referred to the uncertainty about who enforces security in the area. He did not think locking the gate made any difference. There being no further testimony, the public hearing was closed. Ms. Dennis liked the modifications to the Park District proposal and suggested including them in any conditions. She uses the Shadow Cliffs facility frequently in the summer and believes it is an exceptionally well run facility, especially considering the number of users it gets. When comparing the scope of the winter activity with the summer activity, she is dismayed by the reaction of the public. The Park District has done a considerable amount for the City of Pleasanton in preserving open space, recreational amenities all around the city, etc. She felt the District deserved a chance to make this project work. She understands the concerns, but strongly believed the site would be managed well and did not think the worst case scenarios were likely to happen. If there is a problem, the use can be discontinued. She also felt a lot of the information that has been circulated is inaccurate, for instance, that there will not be year round camping and there will not be tent camping. In response to the concern about fire danger, this would be a winter use and the fire danger is at a minimum in that period. There have occasionally been fires in arroyos, but that is due to local kids, not campers. In fact, that could also be a danger to the campers as much as to the residents. It was moved by Ms. Dennis to approve the use permit with the modified conditions contained in the letter from the Park District. The motion died for lack of a second. Ms. Mohr referred to her camping experiences. However, she had a philosophical difference on camping facilities. She considered a paved camping area more a commercial enterprise and not what people come to a park for. She believed Shadow Cliffs is an urban, day use type of park. She felt there was space enough at other parks to accommodate RV sites. Ms. Michelotti went to the site to observe the area and went to the neighborhood to see what visual impact there would be from the proposed project. She referred to a point raised by a Del Prado resident regarding the visual impact of the RV park from Stanley Boulevard. She could accept RV sites near the berm area because they would not be seen. She acknowledged that there is a problem in not having RV sites with hookups in the Pleasanton area. She did not agree that the RV sites should be in the proposed area. She agreed with the other improvements to the park, but would like the Park District to consider other locations for RV sites. Mr. Pico was troubled by this issue because he supported the East Bay Regional Park District and realized there is a need for full hookup RV sites in the Pleasanton area. He just came back from an RV trip through Oregon and related his experiences. He agreed there could 9 11/19/96