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Councilmember Cook-Kallio felt that if we continue to encourage additional growth over and above what has been approved there, then the issue is that we are actually saturating the land. City Manager Fialho agreed and said commercial, office and industrial traffic patterns are more intensive than residential patterns. Commissioner O’Connor said when we talk about being at capacity today, he asked if this meant both residential and business coming in the AM and going in the PM in both directions? Ms. Sterner said in general, we are at capacity coming into the city in the AM and exiting the city in the PM. Commissioner O’Connor also confirmed that we are more impacted by the business development than residential due to the pattern of traffic and because of the amount of growth in business development versus housing development growth. A majority of citizens leave the city with a new influx of vehicles coming in. Commissioner O’Connor referred to the downtown level of service and asked if we knew today when we are at those deep level capacities, how many of those vehicles are destinations to the downtown as opposed to those who are driving through town? He felt if more parking could be supplied for the downtown that the level of service might improve. Mr. Tassano said he did not have an exact number at this time, but he felt it was a combination; if people are coming into the downtown and your first intersection is Main at Ray Street, unless a parking garage is placed somewhere prior to that, those people will still need to be pushed through that congested intersection. You could bring the traffic around to a certain spot and there could be an improvement in this way. Councilmember Cook-Kallio questioned what peak times for AM and PM were, and Mr. Tassano said in 2030 the peak times were not just the 7:00-8:00 a.m. They are seeing spreading now so we are looking at that highest hour of demand; although that demand also exists on the shoulders. City Manager Fialho suggested providing what the AM peak periods are and the PM and how that might increase in the future. Mr. Tassano said the easiest way for us to have a good indicator of where our peak periods are is where we start to see the congestion building up on our freeways, because this is when people start to push at the edges. 6:00-9:00 a.m. would be considered a peak period of the most level of congestion. On Wednesdays, when school is in, it goes until 9:30. In the PM, we start ramp metering at 2:30 p.m. and turn it off at 7:00 p.m., so this is the point where we stop seeing the congestion on the freeway. Councilmember Cook-Kallio asked that in the future if we could encourage less children to and from school, what kind of impact would that have on the circulation pattern within Pleasanton. Mr. Tassano said when he first got here he looked at how to bring busing back and improvements that would occur. We found then and we have done one or two studies since then that it is pretty expensive in getting people to actually move back into a bus and it is not feasible. There would be a significant benefit if we had a large portion of the population that actually rode buses as it would reduce congestion considerably. However, it does not seem feasible in the last 10 years that he has been on staff. Councilmember Cook-Kallio felt that perhaps this was a question for the School Board. Councilmember McGovern said on school busing, the middle and high school kids are predominantly riding buses which are being used. She did not know if any students would ride a school bus if added. City Manager Fialho found that on Wednesday in the AM, congestion is alleviated considerably in the morning because of the late start time. Whether it is busing or Workshop Minutes 15 April 24, 2007