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Mrs. Christine Hoptry, 4123 Payne Road spoke. She stated that just <br />this week she received telephone calls from two people on Payne to <br />watch their children. She said she watches Val Vista children. <br />She stated that her property is one of the nicest in the area and <br />invited anyone to come who would like to see it. <br />Commissioner Getty asked if Mrs. Hoptry would be watching the same <br />number of children in the winter as in the summer. Mrs. Hoptry said <br />yes. <br />Commissioner Lindsey asked the amount of children Mrs. Hoptry would <br />be watching any one time. Mrs. Hoptry said 9. Commissioner Lindsey <br />then asked the hours the children would be there. Mrs. Hoptry says <br />this varies. She stated two of her own children are over 12 and <br />do not count. <br />The public hearing was opened. <br />Tom Hoptry, husband of the applicant, spoke. He said his wife has been <br />babysitting four years with 6 children as allowed and that these <br />people wouldn't be down here if his wife hadn't made application to <br />increase their number. He said he would like someone to show him <br />where the fence is down. He said he would also like to see where <br />the rocks, etc. are. He stated they would be able to get their own <br />petitions in support of their application. <br />Ronald Allen, 6519 Singletree spoke in opposition to the application <br />and presented petition which he and his family circulated. He <br />explained how his property is situated with relationship to that <br />of the Hoptry's. He said several years ago he replaced a section of <br />the fence. He says he complains to the children and not to the adults. <br />He said they are on the fence and noisy. He presented photographs. <br />He said the site would be overpopulated if 12 children were allowed. <br />Russ Tereau, 4141 Payne stated he lives next door to the applicant and <br />moved there in mid-June. He said he has nothing against the neighbors <br />but doesn't want 12 children plus two of their own. He said he found <br />out about the meeting December 7. He stated the children are not <br />supervised, they allow the older children to watch the younger ones <br />and the babysat children come over and ask their children to play and <br />they are all over the streets and yards. He said the children speak <br />in rough tones or language unbecoming young kids. He said he doesn't <br />want the area to become a commercial one. <br />Mrs. F. Martella, 4541 Fisher Court, spoke in favor of the application. <br />She stated she is the sister of the applicant and that the applicant <br />watches her six month old baby and doesn't need permission to watch <br />children of relatives. <br />Terry Berdeau, 4219 Payne Road, spoke in opposition stating the children <br />are not supervised, rocks were thrown in the fish pond so he had to <br />seal it. He said three or four children is plenty for any one person <br />to watch. <br />-8= <br />