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Mr, Warnick indicated that at the time the condition was written to require the street be widened to 60 ft. he had not seen the overall proposal for all of the Ponderosa development and now that he has, he would recommend that the street paralleling Valley Avenue running east-west be 60 ft, Mr. Warnick then went to the map on the wall and reviewed the pro- posed street configuration, He said perhaps the street between Hansen and LaBaron should be 60 ft, He said one or the other of the streets needs to be 60 ft, and perhaps both, Commissioner Jamieson asked how the lot sizes compare to Quail Creek. Mr. Harris indicated these might be smaller than some of the lots at Quail Creek and that they are 35 ft, wide. Commissioner Getty asked if the lots are similar to Morrison's zero lot line units, Mr. Harris indicated that the proposal has 5 ft. side yards but is the same idea. He further said there is more variety in design in this proposal than in other garden court homes in Pleasanton. The public hearing was opened, Jack Wong, Ponderosa Homes, stated that they have no problems with the conditions proposed except for Condition No. 20 relating to a 60 ft, wide street, He said this street was never meant to be a collector street and did agree with Mr. Warnick that a collector street should in fact be 60 ft. Commissioner Getty asked Mr. Wong how he felt about other streets being 60 ft. Mr, Wong responded that they would really like to leave the matter open until they plan the other area. Mr. Warnick said the staff would agree to consider changing Condition No, 20 to say "That the proposed forty-six foot (46 ft.) wide street parallel to Valley Avenue (east-west) in this development be increased in wi th to sixty feet 0 ft. unless otherwise approved y t e City Engineer," Chairperson Lindsey addressed the sound wall issue on Valley Avenue, Mr. Wong said he agrees with staff that an acoustical study be done and that he agrees some sort of wall would improve the street scene, Commissioner Lindsey spoke to Valley Avenue between Hopyard and Santa Rita Road and the fact that much of the fencing along this route is in disrepair and aesthetically unpleasing. Mr. Harris indi- cated that Ponderosa Homes put the wall up on Valley Avenue not because of a sound wall requirement but as a marketing device, Commissioner Doherty indicated that a more permanent type fencing would hold up better than wood similar to Valley Avenue. He said the area mentioned by Chairperson Lindsey looked like a disaster area after the recent large storm, Mr. Harris indicated that City standard specifications have been changed from the time the wooden fence was installed on Valley Avenue between Hopyard and Santa Rita Road. Commissioner Jamieson also indicated that he would like to see a fence other than wood installed. He indicated that if you were living across the road from the proposed development one might object, assuming property values would be reduced. Mr. Wong responded that the proposal actually reaches the low end of the density limit for High Density Residential, He said inasmuch as they have entered into a long-term agreement with the City, they have loosened up density for the area. _q_