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MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION February 8, 1984 Page 5 Commissioner Lindsey asked if Martin were to be deadended if it would still require widening. Mr. Warnick stated this is a major circulation route into the area & would require widening. Chairman Jamieson asked about the fact that all of the homeowners in the area couldn't agree on this proposal. Mr. Harris explained that the City can rezone property on its own initiative, but to this point this has been done on a voluntary basis in this area. He suggested that perhaps Messrs. Skinner and Combs could explain the reasoning for their lack of participation in this project. Chairman Jamieson asked if the development has sewage capacity. Mr. Harris said it doesn't and won't have until they have development plan approval and other processing completed for it. Mr. Harris explained that this could not be done in 1984 as the allocation has already been made. The development would probably wait for the Kamp development prior to getting serious concerning the actual development. Mr. Warnick explained that the utilities are all tl:e way to Santa Rita Road. The public hearing was opened. Chairman Jamieson asked everyone to limit their comments to five minutes and that three minutes would be allocated for rebuttal by each side. Mike Cooper, Bissell & Karn, Engineer, presented the proposal. He thanked the staff for their cooperation. He indicated that the Fire Department has expressed concerned if someone was parked illegally on Martin Avenue, access would be difficult. He stated this has been addressed in their plans. They have designed the lots to prevent any houses from backing onto Mohr and Martin Avenues. He stated that the utilities will likely come through the Kamp development. The property owners are aware of the sewer permit situation. They understand they may have to make direct connections if the Kamp property doesn't develop. They are hoping a benefit district of some kind will be formed. Several months ago they approached Messrs. Skinner and Combs to enter into an engineering agreement for participation. These gentlemen declined. He stated that if Messrs. Combs and Skinner would not agree to the access required by the Fire Department the streets would have to be adjusted. Commissioner Lindsey asked how one would prevent the emergency road from being used by others. Mr. Cooper said it would be built for emergency access only but nothing would prevent others from using it. He indicated that the circulation pattern was reviewed by the Engineering Department of the City. He indicated that a previous drawing of the proposal was more innovative but involved landswapping and there were problems getting everyone to agree on this. Further the people he represents do agree with the conditions imposed on the staff report. Regarding Condition No. 2 he has discussed this matter with Mr. Harris and it is his understanding that a requirement will be to have all homes even if sited diagonally to present an attractive elevation to Martin Avenue. The property owners would like to retain flexibility with this regard. The homes will be custom-built and he is sure all of the homes will have an attractive elevation. Concerning Condition No. 21 and a traffic signal at Trenery the property owners are concerned with the cost and asked how this would be assessed to the property owners. Mr. Warnick stated that the cost of the contribution required would depend upon traffic generation of project. Mr. Cooper then concluded by stating they have been in many meetings with the property owners concerning the proposed development. He stated that some people want larger lots and others smaller. There are economic considerations. He felt they, perhaps, could have presented a more innovative plan with participation by Messrs. Skinner and Combs. He urged approval of this proposal. -5-