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<br />Commissioner Wright reaffirmed with Mr. Swift that the banners a being discussed tonight <br />apply only to religious services. However, should the churches wis to display other types <br />of banners they would have to comply with the original Code accor ing to size and other <br />regulations. <br /> <br />Commissioner McGuirk asked Mr. Sell if he had any idea how m y churches or religious <br />organizations there are in Pleasanton. Mr. Sell thought there were bout 30 churches. <br />Commissioner McGuirk discussed with Mr. Sell the possibility that all 30 churches might <br />choose to put up religious banners for four church holidays for the owed eight day period. <br /> <br />Tom Schindler, 3780 Marlboro Way, member of the Pleasanton Co munity Church, stated <br />he is here simply as a concerned citizen. He was concerned that C ty officials would even <br />hesitate to approve the request by the Pleasanton Ministerial Associ tion who were simply <br />trying to promote good wholesome information for families and co munities. He was very <br />much in support of the Code amendment to allow banners as reque ted. <br /> <br /> <br />Chairman Hovingh stated his concern revolved about the need to se arate church and state. <br />The second thing that concerned him was if the churches have a rig t to hang a banner, even <br />an offensive one, then individuals also should have the same right. <br /> <br />Tom McKeen spoke in favor of the amendment and stated he has b n a minister in <br />Pleasanton for 31 years. In response to Chairman Hovingh's conce for the need to separate <br />church and state, he read Article I of the Constitution. He further oted that the search for <br />religious freedom is what caused people to come to this country to egin with. In response <br />to Chairman Hovingh's concern that an offensive church, such as e Church of Satan, might <br />wish to put up a banner, Mr. McKeen felt that church should also ve the right to do so. <br />Mr. McKeen further noted that pastors are tax-paying individuals li e everyone else; that the <br />churches are not jeopardizing the City by simply inviting people to me together to pray. <br /> <br />David Theobald, pastor of Family Life Fellowship at 3200 Hopyar Road, stated he is also a <br />resident at 788 Crystal Drive. He spoke in favor of the amendmen , and reminded Chairman <br />Hovingh that he was not stopped in coming to the church to have . dgeland meetings several <br />months ago, even though he was not a member of his church. He rther reminded <br />Chairman Hovingh that the pledge of allegiance refers to God and i even recited by <br />government officials. In addition, he did not feel that Pleasanton i a particularly religious <br />community and thought this could be further encouraged. <br /> <br />Chairman Hovingh said he wished to state for the record that Mr. eobald had donated the <br />use of his church to hold Ridgeland meetings and also for meetings on affordable housing. <br />He thanked him for that generosity. <br /> <br />John Emerson stated he is pastor of Lynnewood Methodist Church, 4444 Black Avenue. He <br />spoke in favor of the amendment, noting that he concurred with th previous comments by <br /> <br />Planning Commission Minutes <br />July 8, 1992 <br /> <br />Page 4 <br />