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<br />~ the pastors. He noted in meetings with the Pleasanton Ministerial ssociation, they have <br />expressed their support for the City's desire to keep it free of sign lutter. He stated that the <br />churches are most willing to comply with the size of the allowed b ners and any other <br />conditions put forth by staff. He felt the Commission should be f of fear regarding any <br />possible encroachment on the separation of church and state, noting that both Houses of <br />Congress open with a prayer; that chaplains are in the military, hos itals, etc. He <br />encouraged the Commission to approve the application. Mr. Erne n further stated the <br />religious institutions have helped the Police Department with ce . things and that the <br />Lynnewood Church is a member of the Chamber of Commerce. <br /> <br />Chairman Hovingh noted when he was growing up in the Midwest very church had about a <br />4 ft. high sign noting the times of church services. He asked Mr. merson whether all or <br />some churches nowadays have this type of sign. Mr. Emerson rep ed that his church does <br />not, primarily because their church is on a busy street and people uld have a difficult time <br />reading it anyway. He noted that this type of sign does not lend its If well except in smaller, <br />more rural areas. <br /> <br />In response to a comment from the audience that such a sign would be illegal, Mr. Swift said <br />there might be some restrictions as to how much or what can be pu on such signs, but <br />indicated they are not illegal. <br /> <br />Mr. Emerson concluded his remarks by thanking the Commission fi r the opportunity to <br />speak. <br /> <br />THE PUBLIC HEARING W AS CWSED. <br /> <br />Commissioner Mahern stated she has a different viewpoint of signa e and is a proponent of <br />good signage. She felt as a service to the community good signs sh uld be displayed so <br />people will know what is going on. She said she is supportive of a tive banners of good <br />material, but not paper ones that get torn easily. She did not think at even if all the 30 <br />churches in the area put up a banner that it would be offensive, but she might get concerned <br />if the number reached 200. At this point, she could support the am ndment. <br /> <br /> <br />ed about approval of the <br />hich might prove <br />r. Swift's remarks, he <br />ignage, it might be <br />could also go back to <br />ed the amendment. <br /> <br />Commissioner Wright stated he had been initially somewhat conce <br />banners because of non-mainstream churches using them in a way <br />detrimental to the community. After hearing all the comments and <br />felt even if those churches should choose to put up some banner or <br />better if they were allowed only four times a year, pointing out the <br />the original Code. At this point, he changed his opinion and suppo <br /> <br /> <br />tions were made of <br />e signage they need. In <br />e did not think that <br /> <br />Commissioner McGuirk commented he felt the churches and organi <br />individuals who have the right to go through the process of getting <br />regard to the number of banners displayed by the various churches, <br /> <br />Planning Commission Minutes <br />July 8, 1992 <br /> <br />Page 5 <br />