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Mariana Zuniga expressed concern regarding City Council's accountability to the people requesting police transformation. She encouraged more transparency and denounced using the Graham v. Connor standard as a defense for the use of force. Mayor Thorne closed public comment. Mayor Thorne encouraged City Council to continue the discussion after his term expires. He is convinced of the need for a mental health response team and is leaning towards the PERT model. He expressed concerns regarding the usefulness of SROs and the D.A.R.E. program. He encouraged a discussion with the school district regarding the replacement of SROs with mental health officers. He also challenged the City Council to explore the issues of police transparency in the future but encouraged redacting of officers' names. Mayor Thorne noted PPD does not have a tank but a protective vehicle. Chief Swing clarified it is an armored rescue vehicle to be used when people are in harm's way. He noted the PPD is not registered to participate in the military equipment program and does not have any military equipment. Mayor Thorne commented the carotid hold issue is moot because the state legislature will likely ban it but encouraged City Council to evaluate it carefully if the legislation does not pass. He commented Pleasanton's older population is happy with the PPD and has given it a 90%-plus approval rating in every survey. Councilmember Narum thanked Mayor Thorne for clarifying the tank matter. She agrees with exploring a mental health alternative and is pleased this is being explored as a pilot program that can be adjusted to best match the City's needs. She supports the exploration of a combined effort with Livermore and Dublin. She encouraged discussion with the Pleasanton Unified School District to evaluate the value of the D.A.R.E. program and SROs. Councilmember Narum expressed support for the recommendations of Chief Swing leaving the ability of officers to use their best judgment instead of arbitrary regulations. She would like to revisit the amount and priority of training programs. She noted Pleasanton has a reputation for being a safe family community and she would like to maintain that perception leaving her reluctant to remove police funding to fund mental health initiatives. She believes response times are a critical measurement of assessing police success. Councilmember Narum motioned for staff to further explore an alternate response to mental health calls and to authorize the City Manager to initiate conversations with PUSD regarding the D.A.R.E. program and SROs. Councilmember Pentin seconded the motion. Councilmember Pentin questioned whether or not the City Council can impose a mental health program upon the schools or if that is against the separation of schools and City but encouraged dialogue with the schools. Councilmember Pentin cited a conversation he had with PUSD Board President Steve Maher who supports the SROs and D.A.R.E. program unequivocally, He encourages the school board's involvement as opposed to a unilateral decision being made by City Council. Councilmember Pentin relayed the experience of participating in an active shooter drill and believes SROs would be beneficial but would like input from parents. Councilmember Pentin would like to evaluate the CAHOOTS program performance in the East Bay and is very interested to see how the PERT model would perform in Pleasanton. Councilmember Testa expressed support for the concept of a 24/7 program such as CATT which incorporates emergency medical services to support families at the early stage of a crisis. She supports City Council Minutes Page 10 of 12 August 20, 2020