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Commissioner O'Connor: It happens everywhere. Where's one in Pleasanton? We have one at McDonalds at Bernal and....it does the same thing. They do it all over the place. Commissioner Balch: Well, you can take it up with Starbucks. Grant: We did try it and we thought that that would be a solution. Commissioner Brown: So Herb, can I ask a question I asked Eric? What was the reason for the additional restricted uses above what C-C normally provides? Grant: To be honest with you, we didn't intend to be that restrictive so I think we just made an error in what we're asking for, but we're not trying to be that restrictive. Commissioner Nagler: So may I ask a question? Getting Starbucks to want to be a tenant was a big accomplishment, right? What is your suspicion about what the occupants will be in the other spaces? In other words, how has it been in your outreach to attempt to get other occupants in the other spaces? Commissioner Balch: What other uses do you see? Grant: Retail and restaurants, so still very generic. Commissioner Nagler: Okay. Chair Ritter: Okay thank you. We have one more speaker card. Do you want to say any comments? No? Grant: I think we've covered everything. Thank you. Chair Ritter: Thank you. We'll close the public comment. We're going to take a quick five minute break. THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. The Planning Commission took a break at 9:42 p.m. and thereafter reconvened the regular meeting at 9:49 p.m. Chair Ritter: Okay, let's put up the questions on the screen and we'll be able to start. Granted this is a workshop. We're all just creating ideas and sharing ideas, so let's just kind of go through these and if you hear the answer already said, you can just say "good" and move to the next one. DISCUSSION POINTS A. Does the Commission support the proposed site layout and building orientation including the proposed drive-through and associated queueing capacity? Commissioner Allen: I don't know enough to answer. I sure don't support the queueing capacity. I mean, as Galen said, it's not good practice to have dead end parking for his project from his perspective. Well, as a City representative it's not good practice for us to design a Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 13 of 20 site, but in reality, it's really entering that drive at the tangent point and that car can go right or left. Commissioner Nagler: And just to be clear, my question specifically is an attempt to length the queue. That's what it was. Grant: I understand. Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 11 of 20 38 feet and we agreed to do that because we needed to come much closer to that 12 car queueing requirement. I had a discussion today with Adam about the agreement that I felt that we had as a result of one of the recent meetings where we had the 10 cars and the traffic report said 12 cars, and it was our understanding that if we could get one more car—if we could get to the 11th car—than that would be an acceptable solution because it's not a perfect size. It could be 13, it could be 12, it could be 11. We were at 10 and we were able to modify the site plan. It took a lot of effort to manipulate all of the different pieces and make sure we were satisfying the accessibility requirements and the distribution. At one time we had the two handicapped cars for accessible parking spaces located in front of Building A, but the request was made, can you get one car related to each building, and so we were able to do that. So, we're very hopeful because you know we're kind of up against the wall. That 12th car; the comment was made well, can we make Building B shallower. Well, we really can't. We really can't take another 20 feet for that 12th car out of the depth of Building B because then we're looking at a building's that probably 20 feet deep or we have to severely carve into the corner Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 9 of 20 ructural control such as an oil/water separator or sand filter. No other area shall P16-1349 and PUD-121 Planning Commission Page 11 of 19