3_Exhibits A & C-F - Laserfiche WebLink

Beaudin: So it's a fair question and I think one of the questions we have for you tonight is do you support the list of uses that are included for the report. And I think in the question I hear direction to make sure that we're being real clear about whether or not it's a restaurant use with a drive-thru or whether it's a restaurant use without a drive-thru and conditionally permitted only could be a concern. Commissioner Balch: Actually, you just clarified it now that you say it that way, it actually clarifies it. I'm catching up to speed I can see this right now, but the reason I ask is when I read what they were asking for for the PUD, I would have expected the "c" to be circled as well in that line because it said these are the uses they're asking. So I didn't know they were asking for that one to be conditional. Does that make sense? Beaudin: And I guess my question is, do we have a sub-category or different definition for the coffee shop which took it out of the restaurant realm completely. Commissioner Balch: I think you're right, but I think I'm actually trying to interpret it, if I understand it correctly. I'm asking for clarification because I'm now confused. In a PUD we ask for these permitted uses and then we say, these are the uses we would like permitted or conditional, typically the ones I've seen, right? And then typically not listed is generally considered prohibited unless you get a PUD amendment. So what I'm saying to you is, I read this and I said, oh, the conditional is not circled because I thought we were going down the C- C column and circling everything we wanted permitted or conditional. Given that the second one was not circled, I was wondering why they hadn't circled it, given I apologize....do you kind of see where I'm trying to.... Beaudin: C-C should be circled. I think that's the answer to your question. Commissioner Balch: Okay, thank you. Commissioner Allen: I have another question and it's thinking about the Starbucks study they did at Safeway. What you pointed out is that shopping center has two Starbucks; one's in the store in Safeway and one's the drive-thru. So therefore when people come to visit Starbucks there's two choices they have so the drive-thru may not be getting the maximum capacity as if there was just one. So, do we have data or could we get data on what some other Starbucks stand-alone drive-thru's that might be around a busy freeway corridor? Commissioner Nagler: Well, specifically the Starbucks being put outside of Commissioner Allen: The Rose Pavilion? Commissioner Nagler: Yes. Commissioner Allen: Is that operational yet? Weinstein: It's not operational yet. There is one also in the Vintage project at Bernal and Stanley which I think is a drive-thru? Commissioner Allen: That's not necessarily freeway. Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 4 of 20 onditional, but the design has the drive-thru so how can you reconcile that please? Excerpt: Planning Commission Minutes, September 28, 2016 Page 3 of 20 onditions shall apply to bars,brew pubs,microbreweries and wine bars:(1)The zoning administrator finds that adequate parking is available for said use;(2)If the zoning administrator determines that the use will be or is creating odor problems,an odor abatement device determined to be appropriate by the zoning administrator shall be installed within the exhaust ventilation system to mitigate brewery odors;(3)The applicant is in compliance with all applicable requirements of Chapter 9.04 of this code;(4)If operation of the use results in conflicts pertaining to parking,noise,odors,traffic,or other factors,the zoning administrator may modify or add conditions to mitigate such impacts,or may revoke the zoning certificate for the use. 5. Convenience markets,tobacco stores,secondhand stores and pawn shops are not permitted or conditionally permitted. on Page 18 of 19 shall drain to the sanitary sewer system and an area drain shall be installed in the enclosure area, providing a structural control such as an oil/water separator or sand filter. No other area shall P16-1349 and PUD-121 Planning Commission Page 11 of 19