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Commissioner Allen: Just so we're all looking at the same thing, what table.... <br />Beaudin: Page 22, Table 18.44.080. <br />Commissioner Nagler: So to your point Nancy, look on page 23. <br />Commissioner Allen: Okay, I'm on page 23. <br />Commissioner Nagler: And there are those personal services listed. <br />Commissioner Balch: Could we go by section rather.... <br />Commissioner Allen: It says 2,000 <br />Commissioner Nagler: I'm sorry, continue <br />Commissioner Balch: Maybe I could suggest we go by retail and then we move to page <br />23 and go by personal? <br />Chair Ritter: We've got an hour to go through 4 questions and how do we do this most <br />efficiently? That's what I'm asking. So staff, what do you really need from us is I guess <br />what we need to know. <br />Weinstein: Commissioner Allen's comment was really helpful. I think if you have <br />problems with any of the categories, then let us know. <br />Beaudin: This isn't your only opportunity. We will be back, so if you're looking at this two <br />days from now, send us an email and we'll keep iterating on this as we take it around <br />and show it to other people as well and when we come back, we'll try to capture all the <br />changes for you in a staff report. <br />Chair Ritter: Just like Brad did with his email. <br />Commissioner Brown: Before we move onto the 60,000, when I looked at Table 1, <br />approximate square footage of retail venues and I looked at the size of Lucky's, Macy's, <br />Safeway, both the Pleasanton Gateway and Amador Center and when I think about the <br />Johnson Drive EDZ and the Measure MM or whatever it is coming up in the fall, that's <br />set at 50,000. Would 50,000 not be a more appropriate number based on the examples <br />in Table 1 versus 60,000? <br />Weinstein: One of the authors is sitting in this room right now, he'll admittedly say that <br />you know, 50,000 square feet is a somewhat arbitrary breakoff in terms of regulating <br />uses above that differently than regulating uses below it. So again, we're open to <br />different suggestions on the appropriate square footage for the breakoff, but in looking <br />at uses here in town that exist right now, it seemed like uses above 60,000 square feet <br />had slightly different use patterns than uses below that, but the breakdown could be <br />anywhere really; it seemed like 60,000 was about the right number. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 43 of 58 <br />