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pushing the garages back, I would just encourage staff to focus on that because I think that would matter in the overall look of the homes. Commissioner Allen: All right, I'm going to echo the points that so many of you have had. I think the architecture is very well designed. I like the nice mix of homes. I was originally concerned there were too many larger homes but I think it's a good blend and there are not too many larger homes. I agree about the setbacks on Valley Trails and making sure it's good for safety reasons and also for visual impact especially if we think about pushing the garages back and adding a little bit of variation. And the front porches definitely I think if they were a little bit deeper will add even more character to the nice architecture. Commissioner Brown: Driving through the surrounding neighborhoods, my impression was it's a mix of one -story, one and one -half story, and a few two- stories so this project has kind of that mix. And in terms of architectural design, it is in keeping with the surrounding neighborhood. I would complement the job of the developer to staff's feedback and I have no objection to staff's incremental changes around the porch and garage aspects. Chair Ritter: I concur. I do believe that Ponderosa knows the look of Pleasanton with all of the development they've done to support that. They listen. All right, the last discussion question is: What other information would assist the Commission in its decision on the proposal? Do you have any other comments on the project? Commissioner Allen: No. Commissioner Brown: Just some commentary. First of all, thank you everyone for your time and feedback and for being here for 2 hours and 15 minutes and many of you being very patient so thank you very much. I'm not saying I wouldn't consider voting for this project. I do, like I said, have some concerns around converting. The thing I love about this project is the homes are in keeping with the surrounding neighborhoods. You talked to the community around it and you've got some amenities for that community. My concerns that I expressed is around the City at large and so I guess my ask of staff would be to convince me there aren't any public and institutional alternatives and that residential is the way to go, and notwithstanding Commissioner Balch's comments earlier about traffic, etc. I do agree with Nancy in terms of a total survey of the surrounding community is appropriate. If you're going to put in a community bathroom and meeting facility I think that's a good idea. I'd be nice to have that before we vote on the project. I would, as I mentioned before, like to see a detailed plan regarding Donlon. I know the incremental for this project is small but I think it's come to us when we were talking about infill projects that we take into account impact to schools and I'm not saying there isn't a plan there, but I didn't see it tonight. And my interpretation of the comments earlier is that we would get RHNA credit. I agree with everyone here that I don't want to see high density on this. I do like the project, but my interpretation was that if we wait until the next RHNA cycle, we would get relief from incremental versus doing the project now and just getting the credit for the incremental. And the last request PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 29 of 58