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Commissioner Balch: Can I ask a clarification on that? Was that only for the area between the clubhouse and the existing sidewalk or was that the entire sidewalk throughout the linear park? Lee: It was just for the pathways because the existing sidewalk is already 7 -8 feet and I think it gets a little wider at other points. Commissioner Balch: So is that from the clubhouse to the existing sidewalk or is that the sidewalk that meanders the entire linear lane for the park? Lee: Just from the clubhouse to the trail. Commissioner Balch: To the sidewalk. Lee: Yes. Commissioner Balch: So if I may, 2C, I did want to mention that I was supporting the bathrooms pointing outwards so they were public and not having to go through that clubhouse area. I thought that was a natural course. Okay, so a couple of things in terms of the layout, I think the layout's really good. One of the comments that we have received, I think it was supplemental to the Commission package, was someone asking about the heights and the layouts and basically a lot of the units —I think 15 or so —and the fact that in their opinion that the majority are two -story. But, when I looked at the plan and then with the applicant's comments, while I can't foresee a lot of problems with it, you know, I think this is a fairly good up /down changing. I did want to mention or kind of bring up and maybe for discussion is, do we think the intersection onto Valley Trails Drive; the single intersection —do we think that is properly going to be handled in light of the comments we received tonight? Beaudin: Yes, so I'm going to jokingly say I'm going to channel Mike Tassano. We had a conversation about the Lassen and B Street intersection with Valley Trails earlier today and about three weeks ago. The point has been raised. There are a couple of different perspectives. It's a new development and having a controlled intersection 4- way stop seems like a natural fit in today's society. A lot of the intersections around Valley Trails loop do not have any stop signs. And so the City Traffic Engineer continues to evaluate this intersection. The applicant has shown a 4 -way stop. We think that a 2 -way stop on the minor streets and not on Valley Trails can work just fine if we need stop signs at all. So I would say tonight I'll conservatively say we're talking about a 2 -way stop for this intersection but more likely we're talking about an uncontrolled intersection much like the rest of Valley Trails and when we look at the number of vehicle trips coming out of Lassen right now, the threshold for stop signs is 100 peak hour trips and if you add all of the vehicle trips up in the two neighborhoods and you make some assumptions about when people leave their house which Mike does on a regular basis, it falls under that threshold. Valley Trails itself would have to have upwards of 300 vehicle trips so that is also not happening. There are kind of two ways for people to get out of this neighborhood. So we're somewhere in the middle right now I would say with a two -way stop being a maximum level of control and it's possible we'll have no traffic control at this intersection. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, August 31, 2016 Page 26 of 58