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Beaudin: And I think that was by design from staff's perspective to bring the building that's supposed to have more of an office flexible use character over time closer to the street so it does set itself apart from what might be more traditional residential character. Commissioner Allen: And I can see part of that, but we're in an Office district which says 20 -foot setbacks, and you know, Mike and I had this discussion today —we have different points of view. But, we were talking about setbacks and it's like what will the library look like one day? And I don't know the answer because it's not done, but I would hope it's not a one foot setback to the sidewalk. I would hope there's some greenery, some kind of greenery and softening area. Commissioner Nagler: There's going to be greenery and parking between the street and the building. Commissioner Allen: Well, something. Commissioner Balch: No, there's going to be. Commissioner Allen: I mean that's great! I would hope there would be something that you can feel great about walking down that area and feeling like it's a community and to me right now, there's nothing that does that. Commissioner Balch: If I may though, downtown, when you walk down Main Street, what are the setbacks of any of those? Commissioner Allen: So in the guidelines, and that's right on, the guidelines say in downtown you can do that. I mean that's the objective. They're big buildings, big windows. This is not that. I mean, it's only 10% commercial and it's only 1,000 square feet. It's small and it's really a residence. I mean, it's kind of soft; it's a soft one or two person firm. It's not some big office building, but I mean, this says retail, Main Street and even Peters in some cases you can be right on, but it clearly says and has different rules when getting into these neighborhoods. Beaudin: I'm going to make one last pitch just in terms of the rationale for the setback and I'm not opposed to the line of thinking and I think it's a great conversation. The concern I have is that folks feel like this is going to be right on the sidewalk and really there is that piece of public right -of -way that everyone thinks is theirs, but it really belongs to the public and it varies in dimension anywhere from nothing to 10 -15 and in some cases 50 feet. Commissioner Balch: We talked about this over on Dublin Canyon. Beaudin: Yes, on Dublin Canyon it came up. The property line- nobody sees it and people feel like it's their property but it's really not and the same is true here. The Bernal public right -of -way is wider than the Augustine public right -of -way so where there's potentially a five -foot setback on Augustine because the property line is invisible, the structure's actually a fairly similar distance from the back of sidewalk and where there's a one -foot setback on Old Bernal, there's actually a very similar setback to what's on PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 13, 2016 Page 25 of 38