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Augustine, so the home will appear as if where nobody can see a property line and nobody's looking at dimensions in a table. This structure will appear to be an equal distance from the back of the sidewalk, so I want that to be out there because it's easy to look at the table and say it's a one -foot setback, but from a design and final product perspective, what we try to do is get this building closer to the corner so it had a different character, and if that's not consistent with the Commission's expectations for this site, then we do need to adjust that. But that was the direction; it was putting the parking behind and getting more of a commercial presence for a commercial district or an office district for that particular piece of the structure. The residential development you'll find on the upper floor is pushed back away from the street in a way that is more typical to the setbacks that would be in other residential districts and I hear the point that our office zoning has a 20 -foot front yard setback. I'm just not sure it would accomplish the design objectives we had for this particular project and that might be different from where the Commission wants to go with it, but that's the direction we gave to the applicant in this particular case. Commissioner Allen: Thank you for clarifying that. Could I ask one clarifying question? And I appreciate the City has their piece for where the setback comes in, but that applies to all of our setbacks. So when our leaders had defined setbacks in our documents, like 20 feet or 15 feet, that's on top of whatever the right -of -way is, correct? Beaudin: It's from the property line. Commissioner Allen: Just so we're being apples and apples. Commissioner Balch: Well, no because the property line and the right -of -way could be different, correct? Beaudin: The property line and the back of sidewalk are often different. Commissioner Allen: Okay, that's what's different. Commissioner Balch: Your property line could be right at the curb cut. Beaudin: ... or could be in the middle of the street in some cases. In really old parts of town, sometimes the property line is in completely the wrong place relative to where somebody wants to do development, so it's a situation we often have to deal with and we'll often adjust things if they're in the wrong place when we have development applications but we always go, it's a measurement from the property line unless it clearly says in the code or in the PUD that it's measured from the back of sidewalk. Commissioner Allen: And Mike and I looked at the property line today. I saw the property line and I know exactly where it is that I'm talking about the one foot measurement from. So just know that I'm talking about reality. This is for a bigger topic later, but it does point to kind of the importance of story poles or something to really help us get at what this animal or whatever it is that we're envisioning building really is and how it fits in the neighborhood because absent that we're kind of all having different assumptions about what it is. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, July 13, 2016 Page 26 of 38