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would preliminarily propose a good neighbor fence with a one foot lattice above it. However, we're open to other proposals that may provide a better aesthetic or sound barrier. I think the only concern there is just making sure that all of the neighbors agree on whatever that might be because now it's just not us but it's also those people have rights too as to what they're going to see in their backyard and it's being replaced. We have Robert Lee from William Hezmalhalch Architects here if you guys have any questions specific to the architecture. We gave you imagery but he can discuss with you in more detail about the floor plans, what the back units and frontage may look like and things like that and I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have or defer to him if they're more specific. Chair Ritter: How long have you been working with staff on this project? Deutscher: We started last summer so we've had a number of iterations in the design. The first couple got booted and for good reason, we started with more units. We originally started with the historic house being moved on the site over to the northeastern corner and it wasn't aesthetically pleasing. It just kind of created an odd situation. So we elected to consider different alternatives and location that would be consistent with the historical report from a CEQA architect who could evaluate that and come up with alternatives. I do want to point out that the 4372 Pleasanton Avenue site which is in your staff report is one of a number of proposed sites that would meet that criteria. That was the first one we had and we wanted to make sure that we came to this meeting with something that was technically qualified but we're still working with the owners of that property. It's not a final, and we do have other properties that we're working with too. But whatever it is, we'll meet the standards that were described in Natalie's two points below there. But keeping it on the site, nobody liked the look of it, the efficiency of it and I think it just took away from the historic feel of the historic property in and of itself too. Chair Ritter: Okay, we have four speaker cards. Robert Lee? Robert Lee, Architect: If you guys have any questions, I'm free to answer any you might have, as this is a workshop session. Commissioner Nagler: One quick question. This is obviously a conceptual design, but where on the continuum of a conceptual design and pretty close to what you're going to put in the showroom is this fagade? Lee: So the floor plans in working with Todd are pretty much what they would like to build. The elevation character that you see along St. John's Street is what we're proposing. The elevation for the 6 units in the back, we have not developed those and based on what we heard tonight from you of what you would like to see, we'll go back and design those 6 units and bring it back to you, staff, and the Commission. Chair Ritter: Have you done any other architectural work in Pleasanton? PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 23, 2016 Page 26 of 46