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Lee: A lot with Ponderosa Homes, infill sites along Ironwood, the senior community. That was planned and designed by our firm, the recent one on Stanley Boulevard; I think there were 13 or 14 lots. We designed those. Historically with Ponderosa and other builders throughout, we've been in the Tri- Valley area for a number of years. Our firm is based in San Ramon and we're doing a lot of projects throughout the Bay Area. Chair Ritter: Great. So you understand Pleasanton. Lee: Yes, I even have a house in Pleasanton. Chair Ritter: Great, thank you Commissioner O'Connor: So we received I think one or two emails from neighbors. What would it take to provide any kind of guest parking? One space, two spaces, three spaces? Is there nothing available? Do we have to eliminate a unit to put anything in? Lee: Yes, if we could put up the site plan and we can go through a little bit of it. We are preserving seven on- street parking spaces on St. John Street since we have one limited access into this site. On the right hand side we have one driveway serving the 12 units so we're not having 12 driveways breaking out St. John Street. So after we worked with staff, we basically hide the garages as much as possible and preserve both the landscape that is existing on St. John Street as well as the existing surface parking on St. John Street for residents as well as guests that come to the Downtown. If we were to provide an extra guest space on our property, there may be room in between the two tri- plexes. They are 13 feet apart, but I think the Fire Department might like to keep that clear to be able to access fire from St. John to the units in the back without having to try to truck it. So there would be a little bit of a compromise between the Fire Department access and one guest space, but if you were to add any more guest space, it would eliminate a unit. One guest space takes up 9 feet, or 909, but unless we push the houses further back towards the back, they will be more private driveways than a parking spot for any random guests. Commissioner O'Connor: So I couldn't tell how much space is in between those rear units where it's a little bit wider in the front? Is it large enough to hold a car? Lee: No, and in between the units, the front doors are kind of .... if you see the little black dots on the side of each of those duplexes... that's a walkway and there's a little porch area. So between the porch and the buildings, there's probably about an 8 -foot separation so there wouldn't be enough room for a car there. Commissioner O'Connor: And on the two outside ends what would be I guess a fence line? Lee: Right. We would either have to eliminate the porch on the houses and still really study if you put a parking space and you have to open your door once you do park there, it is pretty tight. What they originally had was a large six -plex building, but the massing and scale of that building was not consistent with the surrounding neighborhood so we divided those into 3 smaller duplex units. I think the scale of the buildings will be more receptive to the surrounding neighborhoods, whether they have PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 23, 2016 Page 27 of 46