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spaces; for example, if it were an insurance building, all of the agents would use a lot of their own parking. He noted that what is being done here is building three houses and supplying 12 parking spaces that would be used by the people in those three houses. He questioned if the developer is being penalized for filling that vacant lot, and he agrees in his own mind that if two parking spaces were being removed from the existing commercial building, then those two spaces should be paid back; and if the City is increasing that to three because of on- street parking, he believes one more on- street parking space can be put back in. He emphasized that he is very concerned about parking and fights for parking all the time, but he wants to do the right thing for somebody who is improving not only the lot that is vacant today, but also give them credit for creating a plaza as the City has done for other people who have also created plazas. He added that the proposed project will extend vitality beyond Main Street, and the City has been looking for this for a long time, trying to get something going on the side streets where all that has been happening is usually office or some users who do not make it. He pointed out that creating a plaza will bring people down there and maybe help fill up the rest of the blocking between Main Street and Peters Avenue, which would be great, and so he does not want to penalize the developers for what they are offering. He stated that he does not know if the number should be two or three, but he does not want to go to five or seven. He added that he is also looking at a block away where the City is putting in 46 parking spaces. Commissioner Balch stated that he thinks everyone agrees that in -lieu fees should be paid for the three spaces on Peters Avenue that are that are being removed to create the driveways for the residential units. He then referred to the two spaces on the commercial side that are currently a garage that will be removed, and indicated that he is not supportive of paying in -lieu fees on them to be consistent with the way the Commission has done for the two -story restaurant on the former Union Jack site, which had two on -site spots that were removed and for which the Commission gave the developers credit. Chair Allen recalled that it was also a historic commitment. Commissioner O'Connor clarified that he thought that was a bad deal because they took away two spaces and actually built on where those spaces were so it was part of the structure. He indicated, however, that these two projects should be considered separately, and he is looking at this project in total because he does not think the Code says that five spaces have to be replaced, however Sections 18.88.020 or 18.88.80 are interpreted. Commissioner Nagler stated that whether or not an extra street space can be constructed is actually pretty important to this equation, and assuming like staff thinks, would be three. Commissioner O'Connor stated that he was on two but would go for three. Commissioner Balch stated that he would support four. Chair Allen noted that the Commissioners are looking at a total of two, three, or four, but not five. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 18, 2015 Page 22 of 34