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that he is obviously not in opposition of that with the proper permits but wants to make sure that the "how" and "when" of times are discussed, if the times are being set here or if the focus here is the use and the times will be figured our later. Ms. Wallis stated that the intent here is that restaurants are automatically permitted to be open to 11:00 p.m. if they do not sell alcohol, but if they sell alcohol past 11:00 p.m., they would require a Conditional Use Permit. She noted that in this case, a Conditional Use Permit would be required if restaurants sell alcohol after 11:00 p.m. Commissioner Balch questioned just for follow -up purposes if he can apply for a permit for 11:00 p.m. to 1:00 a.m. He then referred to Item 2 under Conditional Uses /Retail, restaurants with brew pubs, and assumed that the element here is the brew pub versus just standard alcohol service with restaurant. Ms. Wallis replied that is correct, adding that there is a specific brew pub definition in the PMC. Chair O'Connor inquired what the distinction is between a restaurant and brew pub that serves beer versus a restaurant that serves beer and wine but is not a brew pub. Mr. Dolan replied that it is in the PMC and asked Chair O'Connor why he made that distinction. Chair O'Connor stated that he understands a restaurant can serve beer and wine and be open until 11:00 p.m. at night without having a Conditional Use Permit, but a restaurant with a brew pub will need a Conditional Use Permit. Mr. Dolan stated that there is an opportunity within this PUD to make all things equal, and if that is what the Commission would like to do, that is what staff will pursue. Commissioner Balch stated that "brew pub" is defined as having a true bar that can have more than a few people, more than just something that is a standard restaurant that maybe has a small bar area. He added that he is indifferent either way and is generally fine with the uses. Commissioner Allen stated that she is generally fine with the uses, but is concerned that, for example, in the Downtown, there is a situation where there are a lot of hair salons and service businesses and less and less traditional retail stores, and everything is single -level for the most part. She noted that in a worst -case scenario in a shopping center like this, there would be a whole bunch of music and dance studios and gymnasiums that end up taking the ground floor because those are businesses where people come in and out and they are not necessarily shopping, and it would detract from restaurants and traditional retail, and the shopping center might not be as healthy as it could be. She suggested that the first level be for these vibrant businesses that have a lot of retail and energy, and for the buildings that have two floors, orient those service- oriented businesses to the second floor. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, October 22, 2014 Page 26 of 30