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catastrophes, and she thinks that some in Hacienda are requesting to start school at a <br />different time because children are children, and they are going to do things without <br />thinking about the weight of a car. She requested the Commission to consider all points <br />about putting a school where you might locate it so it's safe for everyone because it will <br />create a lot of traffic. <br />THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. <br />Commissioner Allen stated that the Commission has heard a lot about traffic and she is <br />interested in confirming her understanding of what the real traffic impact would be. She <br />indicated that she had a chance the other day to sit down with Mike Tassano, City <br />Traffic Engineer, and the vision she ended up leaving with is that this area of residential, <br />the big picture of what we are building out, is about the size of Hacienda. She stated <br />that she had not really thought of that but it really helped her think about how huge this <br />project is and how huge its impact will be in community with a lot more cars. She <br />indicated that she wants to go through the numbers so everyone is upfront about what <br />the impact of the Preferred Plan at this stage looks like. She stated that her <br />understanding is that this project would add about 31,000 new car trips a day during the <br />workweek, and of those car trips, about 70 -80 percent are going to be using existing <br />roadways; many will be using Valley Avenue, and only about 20 -30 percent will be <br />diverted to and benefit from El Charro Road. She asked Mr. Tassano if that was <br />correct. <br />Mike Tassano, City Traffic Engineer, said yes. He stated that those are definitely <br />pre -model input but when Commissioner Allen asked yesterday what the percentages <br />were, he noted that roughly 70 percent probably heading west and south and about <br />30 percent heading east seemed a decent conservative guess for these purposes. <br />Commissioner Allen stated that the second area that Mr. Tassano and she talked about <br />was the weekend because weekends are down time and the time things would be a <br />little more relaxed. She indicated that she got the understanding that with 1,759 new <br />units, weekends will add about an average of about 27,000 new trips per day. She <br />noted that that is what the morning peak hours on Valley Avenue look like today, and <br />that is what Valley Avenue would be looking like on weekends, and it would turn the <br />noontime hour, which is the peak for weekends, like the PM peak hour in the weekend <br />evening. She indicated that it is not a right or wrong thing; it is just what it will be like. <br />In that respect, she stated that she just wants to acknowledge that the community has a <br />valid concern about traffic. She again asked Mr. Tassano if she got that right. <br />Mr. Tassano said yes. He stated that he thinks what the Planning Commission and the <br />public want to do is to get a real sense of this large vacant piece of land and the traffic <br />that it is going to add. He noted that he gets asked all the time, for example, about what <br />the traffic going to look like or on weekends. He indicated that he had to drive out here <br />on a Saturday to see what it looked like, and the easiest tool to use is to try and add <br />some of that volume and say this is what it looks like now, and everybody knows what it <br />looks like at 8:00 a.m. when school is going into Hacienda , or at 5:00 p.m. when <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 25, 2013 Page 37 of 45 <br />