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Commissioner O'Connor asked the applicant if they get that volume of people today at <br />5:00 a.m. <br />Mr. Liu said no, because they do not have a store. <br />Mr. Grayson stated that the thought process is that the number will increase because of <br />the store, as people will pull in to get their fuel and will then go into the store to get <br />coffee or a snack. <br />O'Connor stated that that was his point, that people are already complaining about <br />those early morning hours and the noise, and it is only going to get worse if they open at <br />5:00 a.m. with a larger store. <br />Chair Blank asked if the mini -mart in the Shell station across the street is open 24 hours <br />a day. <br />Mr. Grayson replied that it is open at 6:00 a.m. He reiterated that they would struggle <br />with the 6:00 a.m. start and that they already gave up quite a bit from 24 hours and then <br />from 4:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m. <br />THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS CLOSED. <br />Chair Blank noted that this is a tough one as the applicant has already made a lot of <br />concessions. He stated that they are putting in a sound wall which did not exist in the <br />last application at all to address the noise. <br />Commissioner Narum stated that it is a masonry wall and not a sound wall. <br />Chair Blank stated that he thought the design was for sound. <br />Commissioner O'Connor stated that it will have the same effect. <br />Mr. Dolan explained that the back part will deflect sound but the front picket fence will <br />not. <br />Commissioner O'Connor asked staff to verify that there is no housing where the picket <br />fence is and the sound wall is back where the housing is. <br />Ms. Fraser explained that the solid wall is a six -foot tall CMU, so it is a thick masonry <br />wall, that is located towards the back where the residences are, and the picket fence is <br />up front where the offices are. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, March 27, 2013 Page 22 of 48 <br />