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there is a clear process. She emphasized that she did not think the flood gates are being opened to anything and that the PDA wants these Guidelines to work for the businesses and the residents, as well as everybody who enjoys and supports the Downtown. Andrew Shaper, a longtime Downtown resident, stated that overall, he absolutely supports the objectives of these Guidelines which are to ensure economic vitality for the Downtown and quality of life for residents Downtown. He indicated that there are a lot of issues discussed in the scope of the Guidelines, but he would like to briefly address the issues of noise and litter once more, but thinks that something that has not really been addressed is the difficulty of enforcement and what a verifiable violation case is. He noted that enforcement is only an issue when compliance has failed, and suggested some language be added to support compliance, namely, that the businesses that are using outdoor amplified music be responsible for monitoring and ideally logging, so there is some trail. He pointed out, as an example, that no one can be held to meet the speed limits if he or she does not have a speedometer; in the same way, a musician or a sound technician who controls the level of the output would have no way of ensuring compliance if he or she does not know how loud the music is. Mr. Shaper noted that in the case of the Barones' CUP, the business owner is required to make some measurements, although it was not a fully automated equipment as originally suggested since that was too expensive. He indicated that he would like to see something similar added in a positive, proactive compliance assurance, and not requiring calling the police out and going that whole route of first or second warnings. Mr. Shaper stated that he appreciated the comments about modifications and public notice. He noted that he does not subscribe to the Planning Commission agendas, but he reads postcard notices he gets in the mail; therefore, he would appreciate neighborhood notification of these modifications. With respect to decibel levels, Mr. Shaper rhetorically asked if volume really equals economic vitality. He stated that he is not opposed to economic vitality but he is not sure that equates to four times as loud. He noted that decibel levels is a logarithmic scale and suggested that his request for self- monitoring and some kind of logging to ensure proactive compliance would make this much more successful. Christine Bourg, Downtown resident and member of the Task Force, stated: that she found the Task Force to be a very educational process during which she learned a lot more about noise and dBA levels. She indicated that all along, she had concerns about the changes in the status quo, particularly with regard to noise and extended hours, and was very happy to see some of the changes and recommendations in terms of music Downtown, indoor music, and easing of the CUP process for businesses to have music. She indicated that her concern was amplified music for people who live Downtown and are not necessarily represented, such as some Hispanic families who live Downtown with children coming back and forth to and from school who, she thinks, are not aware of these things. She added that having music until 11:00 p.m. on Thursday nights, PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 14, 2012 Page 10 of 31