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Commissioner Olson stated that he does not think it should be a reduced noise level. He indicated that as he listens to this discussion, he thinks about Friday Night at the Park; he does not particularly enjoy that kind of music so he does not go to the Park. He added that like Mr. Huff, he lives a bit to the east and higher than the Downtown, so he can hear the music, but this is part of Pleasanton and he is fine with it. Commissioner Narum asked if staff has checked and verified that outdoor music in the Transition Area on Peters Avenue would meet the 60 dBA level at the residential property across Peters Avenue. Ms. Ott replied that staff does not have a specific answer tonight but that she would ask the noise consultant to verify that. Commissioner Narum stated that for her, that is really the crux of the question. She added that if it is 70 dBA at the Transition Area but it is not 60 dBA across the street, then this would have to be revisited. Commissioner O'Connor noted that both have to be met or it would be in violation. Chair Pentin noted that it is property line to property line. Commissioner Narum questioned if the 70 dBA, which is not unreasonable, resulting from somebody playing outside in the Transition Area can decrease in sound low enough to be 60 dBA across the street, which it is supposed to be at the property line. Commissioner O'Connor stated that the way he reads it, it needs to be at 60 dBA across the street, and if that means it needs to be at 65 dBA at the property line, then that needs to be done to meet it. Ms. Ott said that was correct. She added that the Task Force discussed that a business might not be able to meet that maximum threshold in the Transition Area in order to achieve the threshold that needs to be met at the residential property line. Commissioner Narum stated that it seems to her that it is necessary to know what is attainable because there is no point in saying 70 dBA for outside music, for example, if it does not translate to 60 dBA across the street at the property line. She added that this is something the Commission needs to understand a little better when it comes back. Commissioner Pearce agreed. Commissioner O'Connor commented that on First Street, however, where there is quite a bit more depth in the Transition Area, this might be attainable; so now there would be Transition Area A or Transition Area B. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 12, 2012 Page 28 of 35