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Commissioner Blank asked Ms. Ott is she is referring to standards for noise that <br />residents generate or for the reception of noise at the residential boundary. <br />Ms. Ott clarified that businesses located approximate to residential apartments and <br />units in the Downtown can make a certain amount of noise based on the Guidelines, <br />and that noise level based on the Guidelines may differ from the standard for residential <br />units in other parts of the City. <br />Commissioner O'Connor asked Ms. Ott if she is referring, for example, to a unit or an <br />apartment that is directly above a bar. <br />Ms. Ott replied that could be the case, or the residential unit could be next to the bar or <br />at the other end of the block. <br />Commissioner O'Connor stated that he does not know how this can be done within the <br />Core Area. He noted that there are a lot of homes on the west side of Peters Avenue, <br />but that would be different from those second -story living units with businesses on the <br />ground floor. He asked Ms. Ott if staff knows how many of those units are occupied by <br />owners of those buildings versus tenants. <br />Ms. Ott replied that she did not know. She indicated that the PDA has charted out <br />where the residential units, both apartments and otherwise, are located in the <br />Downtown, but not which ones are owner occupied and which ones are being leased. <br />Commissioner Blank noted that the ordinance talks about sound at the property line, <br />and an apartment over a bar would have no property line; therefore, the ordinance may <br />not apply there, unless the floor is considered the property line, <br />Commissioner O'Connor commented that if the owner of Building A makes noise and <br />Building B next door has someone living on the second floor, there would be a property <br />line. <br />Commissioner Narum used as an example, the Redcoats British Pub and Restaurant, <br />which is located in the Core Area with an apartment next door: the way the Guidelines <br />are written, at the property line, Redcoats could be at 74 dBA. She pointed out that the <br />Guidelines are essentially defining the noise level for these residents next door because <br />the noise is being measured at the business property line. She added that the only real <br />question is what and how that noise is or is not allowed for those living above a <br />business. <br />Ms. Ott stated that the Task Force did not have a specific discussion on noise relating to <br />residences located directly on top of businesses but that it is certainly something staff <br />can look into. <br />PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 12, 2012 Page 13 of 35 <br />