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Commissioner Blank asked Ms. Ott is she is referring to standards for noise that residents generate or for the reception of noise at the residential boundary. Ms. Ott clarified that businesses located approximate to residential apartments and units in the Downtown can make a certain amount of noise based on the Guidelines, and that noise level based on the Guidelines may differ from the standard for residential units in other parts of the City. Commissioner O'Connor asked Ms. Ott if she is referring, for example, to a unit or an apartment that is directly above a bar. Ms. Ott replied that could be the case, or the residential unit could be next to the bar or at the other end of the block. Commissioner O'Connor stated that he does not know how this can be done within the Core Area. He noted that there are a lot of homes on the west side of Peters Avenue, but that would be different from those second -story living units with businesses on the ground floor. He asked Ms. Ott if staff knows how many of those units are occupied by owners of those buildings versus tenants. Ms. Ott replied that she did not know. She indicated that the PDA has charted out where the residential units, both apartments and otherwise, are located in the Downtown, but not which ones are owner occupied and which ones are being leased. Commissioner Blank noted that the ordinance talks about sound at the property line, and an apartment over a bar would have no property line; therefore, the ordinance may not apply there, unless the floor is considered the property line, Commissioner O'Connor commented that if the owner of Building A makes noise and Building B next door has someone living on the second floor, there would be a property line. Commissioner Narum used as an example, the Redcoats British Pub and Restaurant, which is located in the Core Area with an apartment next door: the way the Guidelines are written, at the property line, Redcoats could be at 74 dBA. She pointed out that the Guidelines are essentially defining the noise level for these residents next door because the noise is being measured at the business property line. She added that the only real question is what and how that noise is or is not allowed for those living above a business. Ms. Ott stated that the Task Force did not have a specific discussion on noise relating to residences located directly on top of businesses but that it is certainly something staff can look into. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, September 12, 2012 Page 13 of 35