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Commissioner Nagler: Okay, but the first incremental answer is, yes, there is some use <br />that would be okay. <br />Commissioner Allen: Yes. <br />Chair Ritter: I agree with Commissioner Allen that there could be some use. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: So my problem with it is, we don't know if it's a Mason use or <br />a non -Mason use. If they're being too loud and it's going over the noise ordinance, but <br />we're not going to count voices, I have a real problem. What if it's 10 and they're loud? <br />No use of the buffer zone. <br />Commissioner Balch: So if I may, I mentioned earlier in my comments that I'm familiar <br />with buffer zones specifically in the City of Pleasanton unfortunately and it seems from <br />the buffer zone that I'm familiar with that basically the use can be things like a parking <br />lot frankly. Buffer zones can be used for true, let's call them "passive activities ", and <br />don't know if staff wants to weigh in, but that's why I have difficulty with a strict <br />prohibition. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: This one actually said that it could be used for a future <br />parking lot. <br />Commissioner Balch: I thought I saw that somewhere. <br />Commissioner O'Connor: But not for human use. They're not going to have a gathering <br />in their courtyard. <br />Commissioner Balch: Well, I think that's maybe where I'm hesitant to where we're going <br />because I'm trying to say that I could foresee a use that could be potentially a parking <br />lot, could be a passive use. I'II call it a passive use. So I could support a passive use <br />and not a, you know.... <br />Commissioner Nagler: And I could support the use as a gathering place of human <br />beings under some conditions. <br />Commissioner Balch: Have we heard from Herb? <br />Chair Ritter: I said I agree with Commissioner Allen and Commissioner Nagler. <br />Commissioner Nagler: Okay, so now the question is how do you enforce it? <br />Commissioner O'Connor: We haven't been enforcing the current CUP. <br />Chair Ritter: It seems like the door caused a big issue to start the backyard and maybe <br />we say that the door is an exit only door. <br />Commissioner Balch: So the door has a couple of options. The first was changing the <br />glass to sound proof glass. The second option raised by someone was changing it to a <br />EXCERPT: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, June 22, 2016 Page 31 of 52 <br />