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In response to an inquiry from Councilmember Narum, staff responded that the lower part of the <br /> proposed project, down by the creek, are the man made slopes. Specifically, lots 33, 34, 35, 36, open <br /> space, 37 and 38 have a portion with man made slopes. Lot 33 is the area where the dam was <br /> constructed for the pond and is clearly man made. <br /> In response to an inquiry from Councilmember Narum, staff affirmed that there will not be any building <br /> envelopes on any area outside of the twenty-five (25%) percent man made slopes and the only one <br /> would be lot thirty-seven (37). Staff further noted that they took a very conservative approach to <br /> determine the twenty-five (25%), which runs from lot thirty-three (33) to lot thirty-eight (38). Staff <br /> analysis shows that there is one other lot, in addition to those stated by Mr. Roberts in his letter, that <br /> has a slope which is a result of dirt that had been removed to install an earth dam (lot 33). <br /> Councilmember Brown stated that in regard to those lots, the amount available for building would be <br /> small. <br /> In response to Councilmember Brown, staff responded that from a policy perspective they would not <br /> build structures on areas with slopes of more than twenty-five (25%), presentations have already been <br /> made regarding whether certain slopes are man-made or natural and there is evidence for both <br /> arguments. If Council wanted to apply the twenty-five (25%) prohibition the last lot would be allowable, <br /> as the dirt there is a result of the construction of a dam. Staff confirmed that five (5) lots are in question. <br /> Staff stated that the issues raised regarding lot thirty-two (32) were that it was originally mapped to <br /> stop at elevation 718, the ridge should extend along a separate hill to an elevation of six hundred (600) <br /> feet. In order to be compliant with the vertical setback, the pad must be brought down to five hundred <br /> (500) feet, and as of now, the pad is proposed at five hundred thirty (530) feet. This would dramatically <br /> affect lot thirty-two (32). <br /> In response to Councilmember Brown who inquired how staff could approve a culvert or ten (10) foot <br /> retaining wall within one hundred (100) of the 515 point. Staff stated that the proposal could be <br /> approved with the original motion, when it was determined the ridge stopped at 580. Alternatively, <br /> Council could determine that the retaining walls in the creek bed were not subject to the restrictions of <br /> Measure PP or consider another interpretation of how to define the end of a ridgeline. <br /> Councilmember Brown stated the definition of a ridge is determined by the Municipal Code. <br /> Staff commented that the proposal was an attempt to interpret the vague definition of a ridgeline <br /> provided in the current Municipal Code and in various policies and regulations. There is nothing in <br /> Measure PP which directs a specific metholody for determining a ridgeline. <br /> Councilmember Brown commented there is no way not to define a ten (10) foot wall as a structure. <br /> In response to Councilmember Olson, staff stated that for lot thirty-two (32) much of the hill is at twenty- <br /> five (25%) or greater, and they can not grade off another thirty (30) feet. If the ridge is kept at 718, the <br /> pad can be built at five hundred thirty (530) feet. If you bring the ridge down to six hundred (600) you <br /> would have to build down below at five hundred (500) and it would be an end of court residential unit. <br /> Mayor Thorne affirmed that he did not want to put the community through another Measure PP debate <br /> and that referendums were a "series of soundbites" where non of the history or detail of the matter <br /> would be discussed. He is inclined to remove the proposed units beside the barn and directed staff to <br /> redesign lot thirty-two (32) to make it compliant with Measure PP. In addition, he would move the <br /> access to Ventana Hills to the last (12 unit) cul-de-sac. <br /> Councilmember Olson supported that motion. <br /> City Council Minutes Page 13 of 15 December 15,2015 <br />
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