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- they would study this issue further to see if there is an opportunity to provide additional detailing. He noted that the architectural guidelines call for recessed windows on all of the elevations, and Centex and Deleo are coming back to request that this requirement be deleted. He advised that Greenbriar is not proposing recessed windows on all ofthe elevations. Commissioner Sullivan stated that he would like to hear from staff on the changes that Centex and Delco are requesting. Ms. Kline advised that staff has received several pages of changes from Centex that they have asked staff to evaluate and provide feedback. She further advised that any changes would come back to the Planning Commission for approval. Discussion ensued regarding the process that was followed in the development of the architectural design guidelines. Ms. Seto suggested that when this project comes before them again it may be helpful for the Commission if the developer would list the areas which they would like to see modified and the rationale behind those requests. Chairperson Maas questioned why the design guidelines did not come before the Commission for consideration. Ms. Kline advised that she would explore the process that was used for preparing the guidelines. Commissioner Sullivan stated that it would be helpful to see the Centex elevations to be sure that the vineyard villages are somewhat consistent. Commissioners Arkin and Maas concurred. ".... Mr. Constanzo noted that with the proposed plan every house backs to open space or vineyards and achieves one of the major goals of the design guidelines and the Specific Plan. He stated that they are pleased with the site plan and it is the most prudent plan based on the constraints of the site, and it balances the concerns of the Foleys. PUBLIC HEARING WAS OPENED Mary Roberts, 1666 Vineyard Avenue, noted that she is also speaking on behalf of The Friends of the Vineyard, as she serves on the Board of Directors. She noted that her main concern was the tremendous change in the site plan. She noted that with this proposed plan when you go down the trail you will look at houses, rather than vineyards. She questioned the layout of the vineyards, noting that a 32-foot turnaround is required for a tractor, and this is not an efficient pattern. She noted that the estate lot is now located high on the hill and it is adjacent to the hillside residential property next door which will have an entirely different design. She advised that she objects to extending the vineyards into the blue oaks woodlands. She stated that she feels the site plan is interfering with the objective of having ten acres of vineyards on this property. She advised that she thinks the oak lands should be left as open space, even if this area is calculated into the vineyard acreage. She commented that she also has a problem with the size of the houses. She reported that the wetlands area use to be a lot larger and she does not know why it has shrunk to the size it is shown as now. She questioned whether the well would have sufficient volume to irrigate the vineyards and whether water would be supplied from Wente. In response to an inquiry from Commissioner Sullivan, Ms. Roberts noted that Wente Vineyard Management Plan is one ofthe best in the Valley and she is comfortable with Wente managing the vineyards. r- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES April 24, 2002 Page 11