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DRAFT <br />be on a parallel path. Mr. Dolan replied that it would, although the applicant would not <br />need anywhere near 6 months to address that issue. Chair Blank stated that it would <br />be more like from four to six weeks. <br />Commissioner Narum inquired, if the Commission grants the use permit saying a child <br />can be there up to 16 hours for up to six months and there is no appeal, if in theory, Mr. <br />Pfund could open once he has his business license and any fire or building inspection <br />he needs, but it would not be required that the building satisfy the E occupancy before <br />he gets the business permit under this direction. <br />Ms. Decker said this is correct and added that Condition No. 10 would need to be <br />modified to provide this. She stated that what staff has seen in the past when there is <br />limitation in the number of hours creating the exemption, a condition is added that if <br />there is modifications over and above 16 hours per week, a childcare license may be <br />required and application needs to be made to the State. She noted that this is a <br />standard condition on tutoring facilities and facilities with extended hours where the <br />limitation of 16 hours is granted. She added that this would provide the opportunity for a <br />six-month period based on exemptions seen and information from the State. <br />Ms. Decker noted because that the period of time the State may or may not take to <br />grant a childcare license is not in the control of the applicant or the City, she would like <br />the Planning Commission to consider that if the Commission were to grant a temporary <br />permit for asix-month period, it also craft similar language that the applicant would <br />revisit the Planning Commission after six months and provide information on his <br />operations and monitoring, such as attendance, hours children are there, how many <br />students are in each class, etc., as it is possible that after six months, Mr. Pfund is still <br />undergoing the process and does not have a license. <br />Commissioner Fox questioned if the number of students for an E occupancy was six. <br />Mr. Thomas replied that the commentary to the Code under E educational occupancy <br />talks about pre-school age children age 2.5 to 5 year olds which are the concern, and <br />Mr. Pfund does not teach pre-schoolers. He explained that going from an E business <br />occupancy to an E with smaller numbers would have to do with pre-schoolers in the <br />concept that they need further assistance with exiting from the space. He noted that if <br />the numbers are maintained until it changes, it would be reviewed and plan checked as <br />an E occupancy and would not be an issue until the applicant gets enough students. <br />He noted that having a license provides the ability to extend the 16 hours. <br />Commissioner Olson suggested that if this is set up on a temporary basis, a condition <br />be crafted to say that it will be 16 hours or less until such time that Mr. Pfund obtains his <br />childcare license, which would also trigger the E-occupancy. <br />Chair Blank discussed the scenario of getting a business license and childcare license <br />as well as the triggers for E-occupancy. He stated that he believes that in order to <br />make this work, it should be kept as simple as possible. <br />urtNr ~ t~~tKr i 5: PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, 11/12/2008 Page 19 of 25 <br />