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In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Fox regarding whether there were 50 feet after the inward-opening gate to escape, Mr. Thomas replied that there were two ways to get people away from the building: One way was to go out to Public Way, or taking the escapees to an area of refuge 50 feet away from the building. In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Fox regarding the required area of gathering for people leaving the building, Mr. Thomas replied that for this building, only three square feet of space per person would be required. He added that the concept was to have the area of refuge 50 feet physically away from the building, starting from the exit door for Hap's. He noted that if they also provided an access that would continue through the parking lot out to Public Way, they would not need to provide any actual space for people to stop. In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Fox regarding whether the occupancy was rated high enough to require three emergency egress/ingress areas or whether two areas were required by Code, Mr. Thomas replied that he had not looked at the overall occupancy load but that 500 occupants were required before three exits were required. Because the occupancy load was more than 50 people, two exits were required. He noted that the arrangement of exits required one off the back; the exits could not be close enough so that one fire or other event would block both exits. In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Fox regarding egress through the pinch point between the dumpster and the black container, Mr. Thomas replied that the gate as constructed was approximately six feet wide. He believed that Hap's had rolling dumpsters on the other side of the wall and that one may be black. He noted that the dumpsters were movable and that they may be in the exit path. In response to an inquiry by Commissioner Fox regarding whether this property's dumpster was required to have a fire sprinkler, Mr. Thomas replied that if the building was required to be sprinklered, the accessory buildings must be sprinklered according to City ordinance. The building at 55 West Angela was not required to be sprinklered, and he did not believe the dumpster enclosure must be sprinklered in this case. Commissioner Fox inquired whether the enclosure must be sprinklered if Hap's was required to build a structure to house its dumpster. Mr. Thomas replied that he did not know at this time whether Hap's was sprinklered, based on its age. If it were a fire- sprinkleredbuilding and the current requirements were applied, he anticipated that the owners would also want to install sprinklers in accessory buildings, including the enclosure. Commissioner Narum noted that one of the exit routes that had been discussed was out the door, to the west, along the back side of the building that contained windows that could blow out in a fire. Mr. Thomas noted that could be an issue. Commissioner Narum noted that the three exit routes were across the back to the west, towards Neal Street on the east side, and the exit through the gate. She inquired which of PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, February 13, 2008 Page 6 of 42