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Ms. Decker noted because that the period of time the State may or may not take to grant a childcare license is not in the control of the applicant or the City, she would like the Planning Commission to consider that if the Commission were to grant a temporary permit for asix-month period, it also craft similar language that the applicant would revisit the Planning Commission after six months and provide information on his operations and monitoring, such as attendance, hours children are there, how many students are in each class, etc., as it is possible that after six months, Mr. Pfund is still undergoing the process and does not have a license. Commissioner Fox questioned if the number of students for an E occupancy was six. Mr. Thomas replied that the commentary to the Code under E educational occupancy talks about pre-school age children age 2.5 to 5 years, which are the concern, and Mr. Pfund does not teach pre-schoolers. He explained that going from an E business occupancy to an E with smaller numbers would have to do with pre-schoolers in the concept that they need further assistance with exiting from the space. He noted that if the numbers are maintained until it changes, it would be reviewed and plan checked as an E occupancy and would not bean issue until the applicant gets enough students. He noted that having a license provides the ability to extend the 16 hours. Commissioner Olson suggested that if this is set up on a temporary basis, a condition be crafted to say that it will be 16 hours or less until such time that Mr. Pfund obtains his childcare license, which would also trigger the E-occupancy. Chair Blank discussed the scenario of getting a business license and childcare license as well as the triggers for E-occupancy. He stated that he believes that in order to make this work, it should be kept as simple as possible. Commissioner Narum stated that she thinks he could have up to 20 children. Ms. Decker replied that based on the operations as described for the hours, Mr. Pfund can have up to 20 children but it is the number of hours the Commission is considering that each child can only be there up to 16 hours only. She noted that Mr. Pfund can have 20 children on site, but they may not attend more than 16 hours, which would allow Mr. Pfund a type of business and maintain these hours as identified and agreed upon with conditions. Commissioner Narum noted that if Mr. Pfund is granted a temporary use permit through end of school year to give him time to get daycare license, and if he does not get everything together until June 1 St but wants his business permit based on having a daycare license, which would trigger an E-occupancy which takes about fourweeks, it would put him beyond the six-month temporary permit period. She inquired whether the Commission would want a condition for him to start figuring out how to satisfy the E-occupancy so that his six-month permit does not run out while meeting all the other things that are dependent on one another. PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES, November 12, 2008 Page 22 of 29