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Councilmember McGovern said having worked on the original Youth Master Plan Implementation Committee, one part of the work plan was to develop a strategic plan, and she asked if this would be done. Mr. Fialho said his preference would be a hybrid between 1 and 2; five members and a maximum of 6 members for Item 1, and he likes Item 2 being specific in terms of charge and responsibility and how that gets defined by way of an ordinance or resolution. Councilmember Cook-Kallio confirmed with the City Manager that if the Council started out with 5-6 members and put a definite timeline to achieve something, there is nothing to stop the Council from altering it depending on needs. Mayor Hosterman opened the item for public comment. Tim Belcher said it was interesting in the report that there were 15 programs, 12 different water conservation initiatives listed, yet the list was rather small. He felt 5 people would be too few to represent all of the constituencies and the different disciplines and suggested rather a 7 member committee. He also suggested task forces be contained with the committee, as needed, and agreed to help. Mayor Hosterman closed public comment. Mayor Hosterman said she did not support a task force, other committees have been good at advancing policies, and she would prefer a five member commission with an alternate and staff liaison. She supports a work plan, but wants it to be expanded to be a committee on energy and the environment because she wants to highlight that energy is foremost in the world. The City has just completed its identification of greenhouse gas emissions, and she asked this group to help in listening to the community and formulating policy to send to the Council. She believes there will be a day where an Environmental/Energy Manager will be a position for the City. Councilmember Sullivan agreed, but suggested calling it a Committee or Commission on Sustainability because energy, water, the environment and climate change are all things that will be encompassed. He said it needs to be a manageable number of people and he was okay with 5-9 people. To him, the reason for the committee is to drive all of the new programs and policies in the General Plan surrounding sustainability. He would like a community group that will help drive policies forward to the Planning Commission and Council and get them implemented. He thinks this is a great start, it is a long time coming, and he supported getting something going. Vice Mayor Thorne said he thinks environmental protection is something that should be more institutionalized throughout all of our organizations, including commissions, staff and this Council. He was afraid if a full blown commission is created whose sole purpose is environmental, we will lose a lot of that institutionalization. His second concern is the streamlining process. He thinks the Council should get some update on where we are with the overall streamlining process. Over the next year, we have added two formal groups to the review process; the EVC and the new downtown group. He said any citizen can be part of the review, can request materials or comment on any project, but these are formal groups of the review process. He said he knows within the next five years, something will be held up waiting for one of the groups to do its job, and this is more likely if we have a full blown environmental commission. He said his third concern is economics and the need for more staff. He said we could leverage our own staff people and not necessarily have additional staffing. He therefore, would support a citizen's advisory committee with a two year sunset and allow the Council to review the progress City Council Minutes 18 July 15, 2008