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are front-loaded and all deliveries are made through the front doors, which is not uncommon in <br />shopping centers. <br />Mr. Grant said one problem with dense landscaping is sign visibility, which must be balanced. <br />They love street trees but it is tough on retailers because it conceals the architecture and <br />signage. <br />Commissioner Narum referred to the south end of the plan by the community park and asked <br />what the plans were for landscaping to create a buffer there. Mr. Grant said their landscaping <br />concept consists of trees where there are no carports, a 10 foot high screen wall at the loading <br />docks and the grid for climbing plants grow up above that. On the back side of the recycling <br />structure there are climbing plants, green screens added to the back of the facade, all columns <br />are wrapped with a woven wire mesh which is a common device for climbing plants and they <br />may have some berming, as well. He confirmed there was no solid wall, but a living and <br />growing wall of plants. <br />Commissioner O'Connor said since the shops will be front loaded, he asked and confirmed with <br />Mr. Grant that certain hours will be built into the tenant's standard leases for deliveries. <br />Commissioner Perece said the staff report indicates the existence of a fast food restaurant to be <br />allowed as a permitted use and she asked if allowed, where it would go, Mr. Grant said the <br />restaurants typically like to be located on corners, they like visibility and there was not one <br />currently shown on the plans. Mayor Hosterman asked that there be no fast food restaurants, <br />and Mr. Allen said they do not anticipate any drive-thru's or convenient type fast foods, but other <br />cafe type restaurants like Rubio's. Mr. Grant pointed out a location on the map for an outdoor <br />bistro type operation, deli or cafe, and said it is important for them to make the areas active, live <br />and friendly spaces. <br />Commissioner Perece confirmed with Mr. Grant that the drive-through drug store's traffic flow <br />cuts across the pedestrian access to the park, and that the traffic from the drive-through would <br />be low volume. Mr. Grant said these types of drug stores are approved typically where no drive- <br />thru restaurants are allowed and he felt this would not be a critical issue. <br />Commissioner Olson asked if the retail center was afreeway-oriented center or a neighborhood <br />oriented retail center, and Mr. Allen said they are proposing commercial regional because of the <br />location; however, it was sort of neighborhood as well because with senior housing, they felt it <br />would also serve that neighborhood.. <br />Commissioner Olson referred to the pad next to the bank pad; Shops 1. He asked if it was 7 <br />distinct stores or was it less. Mr. Grant said it could potentially be 35 retail stores; that all lines <br />defined potential walls, but a tenant may want to take more than one space. <br />Councilmember Sullivan said it looks like the project is centered inward on the parking lot and <br />the backs of the buildings are along major streets and the park. He asked if the developer <br />considered having it the other way where it is more open to the community versus enclosed into <br />itself. Mr. Grant said the philosophies of most cities have been to push buildings to the corner <br />and street and not have parking lots as the primary visual element from streets. What they end <br />up with is a highly animated exterior face so that the buildings become the screening devices for <br />the field of parking in the middle. Also, the Majors is 30,000 square feet, their parking field <br />extends far into the area which allows for shared parking that works for other shops. He said it <br />City CounciVPlanning Commission 10 November 8, 2007 <br />Joint Workshop <br />