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Marvin Howell, Director of Land Use Permitting and Planning for Hanson Aggregates West, Inc., P. O. Box 639069, San Diego CA 92069, indicated he was here to listen to what the community had to say about development of this parcel. He noted in his twenty years with Hanson, he has seen their properties developed into all types of things, from parks like Mission Trails in San Diego, to office complexes and housing developments. He described a project he is currently working on to rehabilitate property along the San Diego River for public uses. He encouraged people to develop a vision of how to use the amenities on this property when considering development. Carol Mahoney, representing Zone 7 Water Agency, indicated it is getting ready to develop the chain of lakes master plan. She noted the Lake I buffer zone and wanted to have the city take that property. She would like the General Plan to address that. She said there were some drainage concerns and wanted that included in the master plan along with some protections that any future use does not contaminate Cope Lake or surrounding streams. Phil Blank asked for clarification about the buffer zone for Lake I. Ms. Mahoney said there is an area adjacent to Martin Avenue near Lake I that Zone 7 refers to as the buffer zone. That is an open space area that Zone 7 would like the city to take over and maintain as an open space for the neighborhood. Brian Arkin asked if it would be an advantage for the city to take over this area? Ms. Mahoney said Zone 7 cannot operate the area as a park because it does not do recreation. It usually partners with cities. She clarified Zone 7 would maintain ownership of Lake I. She continued that the vision for the chain of lakes was to use Lake I for ground water recharge and the rest of the lakes would be used either for recharge, water storage, and Cope Lake is for flood water retention until a storm passes. It is expected the master plan would be completed in 2009. Steve Brozosky asked how much control the city would have for recreational use of the lakes and whether the East Bay Regional Park District would be involved? Ms. Mahoney indicated Shadow Cliffs is not a part of the chain of lakes, which is why East Bay Regional Park District operates it. Zone 7 said there are options for recreation but noted there are safety issues for some of the lakes, such as steep slopes. Cope Lake has recreational potential and that will be addressed in the master plan. Mr. Brozosky asked how much property does Zone 7 own around the lakes? In other words, how close could development occur? Ms. Mahoney said Zone 7 owns 25 feet around each lake except for Cope Lake. The property line stops at elevation 350, or right against the bank. Mr. Brozosky asked if Cope Lake was the only lake with a gradual incline, while the others have very steep slopes, so cannot be used for recreation? Ms. Mahoney said some future lakes, such as Lake A, may have a greater potential for recreation because the slopes are not quite as steep. Joint Workshop City CounciVPlanning Commission 2 01/24/06