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<br />Hacienda Business Park site for those students, does that impact other schools, or <br />require changing boundaries? <br />Mr. Haskell said they did not know as yet. <br />Mr. Brozosky asked if there were other sites in the Bay Area that Council could <br />go to in order to see what transit-oriented development really looks like with regard to <br />density and style? It is hard to visualize from a drawing on paper. <br />Mr. Haskell said he would provide that information. <br />Mr. Brozosky noted the business owners would participate in this planning <br />process and asked if the existing residents in Hacienda Business Park would have input <br />on the proposed plan? <br />Mr. Haskell said there has been an effort to meet with property owners to get <br />their input. <br />Mr. Paxson said the four Signature Properties projects and the Archstone <br />Apartments complex are not formally members of the business park. They were <br />deannexed from the business park, however there is still an affiliation with the Hacienda <br />Business Park Owners Association. They are important neighbors in this process and <br />are part of the outreach for this process. <br />Mr. Brozosky referred to the amount of retail space necessary and how much <br />can actually be supported by the residential development. He believed there would be <br />customers coming from outside the business park. <br />Mr. Haskell said that was correct, but a big part of the discussion is the number <br />of employees in the park today. <br />Mr. Brozosky felt most retail could not be supported from a lunch crowd. He felt <br />most stores needed to be open later and would need to draw customers from outside <br />the park. He then asked how the data was found for the trip generation for the TOD. <br />He felt there could be a survey of existing housing units to find out the commute <br />destinations and numbers of vehicles. <br />Mr. Lee said most of the data was fairly accurate from the census but <br />acknowledged there could be focused surveys of similar TODs or current residents to <br />get a sense of travel patterns by mode or destination. <br />Mr. Brozosky referred to a presentation by the Metropolitan Transportation <br />Commission that talked about TOD. The study indicated the maximum observed was <br />40% of the people used the public transportation near their homes, with the lowest <br />being 5%. <br />Joint Workshop <br />City Council/Planning Commission 8 10/25/05 <br />