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the streets would be laid out, hopefully with more narrow streets. He liked the point about density with amenities. He wanted to evaluate traffic effects and opportunities to help the city with its traffic problems. It is simplistic to say no more houses because they bring traffic. He hoped to see a way to quantify the sustainable or environmental benefits of this as opposed to big houses in the hills. Perhaps it would help understand density transfer. Economic benefit was of concern to him as well as it relates to retail and the synergies of people living near retail and office. School impacts also needed further review. Finally, he wanted to make certain there is community input. He supported development near the BART station and across from Wal-Mart, but there is concern about the development on West Las Positas area. He did not think that could be truly transit-oriented. He noted the Hacienda website included several studies that have been done for this project, including what the retail can support, traffic impacts, Dublin retail impact on this, etc. Mayor Hosterman reiterated the information available on the website and encouraged members of the community to review that data. She acknowledged there are issues regarding the impact on schools. There are critical mass questions about the number of units necessary to make the project work. She listed other points raised, such as, locations for visiting similar developments, trip generation numbers, walking mall idea, BART parking, traffic issues, future entitlements for retail and office space, analysis of impact of transit-oriented development on the downtown, density transfers, housing element questions, sustainable future regarding housing goals, scenarios of what the project could look like, getting a measure of community acceptance as the project evolves, quantifying environmental benefits with regard to density transfers, understanding economic benefits, and providing opportunity for community input. She asked James Paxson if he understood the direction given at this meeting. Mr. Paxson said he and the consultants had clear ideas of what was necessary to generate the next level of information. He said the URL for the website mentioned is TOD@Hacienda.ora All the studies are posted on that site. Mayor Hosterman thanked everyone for coming to the meeting and for the information presented. 5. ADJOURNMENT There being no further discussion, the joint workshop was adjourned at 9:20 p.m. Respectfully su ~ci Dawn Abraha City Clerk Joint Workshop City Council/Planning Commission 14 10/25/05