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Ms. Narum wanted to eliminate plans B, C and E, which have the cultural arts center in the main part of the property. She did not think that was what people wanted to see as they were driving down Bernal. Everyone likes the open space they see now and being able to see the Ridge. She was also at the meeting of the arts and sports groups. It was refreshing to see these groups realize they have many things in common and to cooperate. She would like to ask Mr. Fotheringham to take the original master plan and his plan and blend them together, keeping the cultural arts center in the northeast corner. He should keep the eight sports fields that can be used simultaneously and change them a bit. The first plan is a little busy and she would like to see some of things moved to other parts of the property to provide more open space like the second plan. At the same time, she wanted to keep the spirit of the design competition winner with a more open and spread out feeling. Since the sports and arts groups have worked together, she felt there was an obligation to look at their proposal. She did not want to see a train station on this property. She has had questions about the teen center and youth club and wondered if they were the same thing or two separate facilities? She needed a better understanding of those two things. Mr. Pentin indicated the Commission voted for Plan A with one change of moving the teen center to the Youth Club area. He still supported that plan. If there were a way to eliminate the three other plans that put the cultural arts center in the middle of the park, he would support that. The residents of Pleasanton see this as an open space park, one way or another. He was encouraged by the cooperation of the sports and arts groups. He still believed Plan A was a way to keep a variety of items around the perimeter of the main park area. He noted the need for amplified sound in the amphitheater and said anytime three or four hundred people are together, that is necessary, even in these Council Chambers. He referred to the statement about people walking to the cultural arts center from downtown and asked how many people walked to the fair from downtown and back. He cited the difficulties of walking under the Bernal overpass and that was one of the reasons people would not walk from downtown. If using the northeast corner is good for the arts and sports groups, that was good, but he did not agree that was an extension of down. Using that corner for the cultural arts center would eliminate the dog park and somehow that has to be part of this plan. He was not found of the train station, but felt there was a responsibility to the transportation corridor to provide a train station or to encourage mass transit. He agreed the an all weather field was a great asset and is needed in Pleasanton. Ms. McGovern wanted to look at this in three different sections. She asked staff about the thirteen acres for fields, which has already been approved, and asked when they would be open for public use? Mr. Rasmussen said the fields would be playable in Spring 2007. Ms. McGovern referred to the community park area on the first draft and asked for the actual acreage. Mr. Rasmussen responded that it was about 45 acres. Ms. McGovern asked where the creek alignment was located. Joint Workshop City Council and Parks and Recreation Commission 9 05/12/05