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flexibility. He also had concerns about the definitions of developed versus undeveloped land. He felt urban landscaping, trails and sports fields are not development. He believed development meant buildings or paved parking lots. He agreed with the idea of keeping more water in the detention basins. He suggested a real pond somewhere on the property and believed community gathering places usually include water. He envisioned trails going through waterways with benches on the side for people to sit and relax. If the water is lost in the summer, some value of the property would be lost. The ACE proposal was disturbing because of the desire for parking for 1,200 autos. He did not want a parking lot that big on this property. He liked the subarea concept, but thought this proposal needed more visuals to get people enthused about what could be on the property. He referred to a proposal he found on the Internet for reconstruction of the World Trade Center. It sought architects to present designs for presentation of options to the community. He suggested something similar for the Bemal Property. Landscape architects could present a vision of what could be done on that property. He related the details in the World Trade Center proposal. If this kind of thing could be done soon, it might be possible to have story boards available on the property for viewing at the big party there. Mr. Campbell said the only structure he wanted on the property, besides the daycare facility, is a bam for the 4H group. It would look good next to a pond. Mayor Pico felt there was consensus for the eight or nine subareas. He reiterated his desire for overlays indicating the water features. He believed those features would have to be constructed at the beginning of the project and he felt the community would like to see the trails and restored wetlands programs start quickly so the property can be used while the City takes the time to prepare the plan for a vote and to find the resources to finish the development of the park. He wanted another workshop to allow more public input. Carl Pretzel, 3633 Glacier Court, said his main concern was with regard to the storm detention basins. The residents of Valley Trails want to make certain storm drainage through the arroyo is maintained. The detention ponds only address runoff from the area itself and not the more regional problem. He believed the trails would be about four miles long in total and he was concerned that there are some long areas that have limited access. Funds should be set aside to have access from cul de sacs for parking. In that way people with limited physical abilities or with small children can access all parts of the trail. He took exception to the idea that structures must impede the view. He felt a good, well planned structure could be spectacular in a park setting and cited several examples Brian Arkin, 3740 Newton Way, liked the proposal of Mr. Brozosky for a competition for landscape designs. He requested a feasibility report at the next workshop. There was consensus on Council for staffto pursue the competition, but that direction would occur once a better framework of what is desired on the property is determined. There was discussion about a possible date for the next workshop and it was felt that June 30 was a possibility. The workshop was adjourned at 7:02 p.m. Pleasanton City Council 3 06/03/03 Minutes