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335 Planning Commissioner Getty stated she felt the area should come in as PUD zoning. She stated she had concerns about aesthetics for the area and that fencing should be addressed. She stated she did not feel the street system could be pro- perly determined until some engineers look at it, and that any decisions made before then would be premature. She stated she preferred Alternate D of the staff report, but was agreeable to Alternate C. Planning Commissioner Doherty stated that as far as the traffic pattern is concerned, the lifestyle and privacy of the propezty owners in the area must be respected, and felt that Alternate C of the staff report probably made sense. He strongly opposed any lot size being less than one acre. Planning Commissioner Lindsey stated he felt Trenery Drive should be cul-de-saced. He stated there are some advantages and some disadvantages to each of the four alter- nates presented in the staff report. He stated that density in this area needs a lot of protection; and that possibly each five acre parcel should be looked at individu- ally. He stated he like the clustering concept for development, and felt that nature should be preserved. The following comments were made by Councilmembers. Councilmember Mercer stated he felt Trenery Drive should be cul-de-saced at the Dawes and Molinaro property. He stated he felt the park site should be located on pieces of property that have the most development; possibly the Corrie or Molin- aro property, since CPK is already required to, have a park in their development. He stated he liked the density concept presented in the Kamp property proposal with high density on Oakland Avenue and less density further back in the project, and felt the Molinaro property should be developed in the same manner. He stated he felt the rural atmosphere should be retained and that lot sizes could be varied from 3/4 to 1 acre in size. He stated he had some concerns about the Chu property but these could be addressed when considering the development plan. Councilmember Brandes stated he concurred with most of Councilmember Mercer's statements. He stated he felt all property should be annexed to the City with PUD planning. He stated that as plans come in Council will be able to evaluate the number of units that should be allowed, and that development would have flexibility in preparing their development plans. He stated he felt Trenery Drive should be preserved and protected. He concluded by stating that development in this area will be over a long period of time and the changes will be gradual. Councilmember Mohr agreed that Trenery Drive should be cul-de-saced, and that protection should be given to the residents. She stated the park site could be argueable either way as to which property should yield the five acres, and suggested that consideration be given to it coming out of two properties. She stated she liked the idea of feathering in density and felt that minimum lot size should be from 1/2 to 1 acre. She concluded by stating the considerations made tonight are general for long range planning and should allow flexibility. Councilmember Wood stated he concurred with the comments of the other Council- m ember s. Mayor Butler stated that two large areas will be developing and that street access should not be a burden on small property owners to provide that access. He stated he was not strongly attached to any alternative presented in the staff re- port. He stated he agreed that additional traffic should not be loaded on Trenery Drive or Martin Avenue, and that a new point of access should be provided. Mayor Butler stated that with regard to density the one thing he did not want to see in this area is a "cookie-cutter" type approach; he felt lots should range in size 4. 11/29/82