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19 Mr. van Gelder responded that the toll road representatives had indicated that it would remain as a free alternative. The options would have to be clarified in the environmental document. Ms. Mohr then asked if the air quality and growth inducement would be addressed in the EIR. Mr. van Gelder answered yes. The MTC study will include the growth inducement factor. They would be running a model on whether the toll road would improve or make the air quality worse. Ms. Mohr asked if the air quality that would be affected along 'the route of the proposed toll road would be any different than the air quality impact that the 1-580/I-680 gridlock would cause. She was trying to determine if traffic was going to be eliminated because of the toll road. She concluded that both Livermore and Pleasanton have traffic problems and whether the toll road is the answer could only come out of the EIR work. She was not willing to lock Pleasanton into a gridlock situation when there may be other alternatives. Mr. Tarver said that he previously felt that he could not support this project. He felt that what was happening this evening is that the City of Pleasanton is taking a position about the toll road as an alternative if funds are not found in the next five years. He understood that the staff recommendation goes beyond the EIR. He agreed with Mr. Stein's comment that the City of Pleasanton should not take a position until the results of the EIR are available. He preferred to see the full EIR rather than segment by segment. He believed that MTC would be the better lead agency than Caltrans in this project. Even though he had strong reservations about public funds, toll roads, and the idea of freeways, he felt that the State is ignoring its responsibilities in failing to come up with funds to provide the transportation requirements of this state. He could not support the motion because he felt it extends the city farther than he wanted. Mr. Butler stated that his motion did not go that far. The motion establishes the need to develop the information. He understood Mr Tarver's concern though Ms. Scribner agreed the toll road should be open as an option. She was in favor of mass transit over automobile uses. All options should be looked at. Mr. Tarver asked for clarification on Mr. Butler's motion. He understood that the staff recommendation says that there is a clear policy supporting the staged construction even if there is not adequate funding found. Staff also recommends that the portion remaining between 1-680 and Isabel be constructed as a toll road. He felt that this was a strong statement about the toll road and the way it would be used without the EIR being done. 9/1/92 19