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Ms. Dennis stated that the costs of building the improvements keep escalating. Fee schedules are set but what can happen can't be predicted with the economy and the rate of inflation. Further study needs to be done regarding whether development can pay for itself. Enacting bond measures are difficult. The commitment has to be made at the outset that a certain level of growth triggers a previously agreed upon level of financial commitment. Mr. Van Geltier stated that East Contra Costa has an established fee. He felt the economic models can be covered in the fee study. A fee structure can have the ability to raise the rates as inflation increases. The difficulty is in how big the list of projects will be and how will they be prioritized to utilize the cash flow to do the first project. He thought creative funding alternatives are going to have to be looked. Ms. Michelotti believed the Tri-Valley Transportation Council needs to look at the major impacts from fixing Highway 84. Until something happens in one place, you won't get a lot of resolution in either place. Mr. Van Gelder indicated there are many variables, which is why it is important to continue the model. If Highway 84 is not completed and growth continues, there are different impacts than what the model shows. He believed we need to consider a way to have a toll road to come up with some balancing revenues. When all the facts are received at the policy and technical levels, then some hard decisions will have to be made on how to bring it together. Mayor Tarver asked if there were two BART stations in the plan. Mr. Van Gelder stated that there are two BART stations anticipated and it anticipates the need for coming up with funds for the second BART station. Ms. Mohr stated that even if nothing else is built in the Valley we will still have an interchange of two interstate highways and there won't be help from the Federal Government. Local monies will have to be used to build them. There is no way to prevent the traffic from coming through Pleasanton and even if there was a toll road, it is still local traffic that will be footing the bill. She avoids Interstate 580 at 5:00 p.m. because of the congestion. If there was a ramp meter installed at Hopyard and 580 going toward Livermore and traffic is already at a dead stop, what good will it do? Mr. Van Gelder stated the intent of the metering is not to look just at Pleasanton, but to look upstream where two vehicles might have come together. Metering provides space for merging and helps avoid collisions, which really stop traffic. You don't get more capacity but you maintain a decent level with a better likelihood of maintaining this level longer. Ms. Mohr asked if he felt the City would face the condemnation of a parallel length of Interstate 580 from the Altamont to the Dublin grade? 08/15/95 -13-