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disarmed. She said the greatest danger to liberty lurks in insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well being, but without understanding. She asked what is the need for this ordinance. She said the forefathers of the United States cared about the people and the future. She felt it was her duty to protect and save the Constitution for her grandchildren. She did not want any right or power given to somebody 25 years from today. She could not believe the people wanting to toss aside the Constitution of the United States. She felt this was just the beginning. If this law is passed then other laws will follow and soon there will be no guns at all allowed. She said Council could write all the laws but it would not address the unlawful. She asked Council not to waste time addressing the residents about the misuse of guns. Those who are willing to give up a little liberty for a little safety will have neither. Ted Crowton, 6013 Acadia Court, believed guns were not needed in Pleasanton, but his grandmother who lived in Oakland used a hand gun to keep from getting mugged. He believed there was a need to educate people about guns. He felt the ordinance was unconstitutional. He felt everyone should have the right to protect themselves anyway they see fit. Jim Rowland, 3650 Locke Court, said he had seen gun violence occur. He said the points he would like Council to focus on are: zoning, dealers, Saturday Night Specials, children's safety and insurance. If this ordinance saves one life it would have value. He supported the ordinance. Melba Forsberg, 4520 Entrada Court, appreciated the City Council' s attitude when it said it would listen. She did not understand why this ordinance was back. The citizens elect the City Council but no one elects the Regional Board. There is a layer of bureaucracy that is not provided for. She said Pleasanton is the safest town in Alameda County, therefore she did not see a reason for this ordinance. She felt other things would happen if this ordinance was passed. If restrictions are put on guns and the sale of guns then the restrictions will be broken. She said defense is a big part of what the United States does. She did not support the ordinance. She did not want to pay for the extra taxes it would take to implement the ordinance. Geoff Cooper, 7534 Flagston Drive, agreed businesses should be doing business in an area zoned for business. He supported the concept to restrict business to business locations and not allowing retail out of homes. He said the ordinance is not clear on the banning aspect. He asked for clarification on the "Saturday Night Specials" ordinance. He did not feel the list of guns was any more dangerous than any other guns. He would like a provision in the ordinance stating no city employee can carry any of the weapons listed, while on duty. He wanted to know if the guns that are kept from criminal arrests were destroyed and how. Cindy Israel, West Angela Street, believed those in favor of this ban truly believe it is for the good of the people. This ordinance gives them a false sense of security and urged the citizens and Council not to pass this ordinance just because it feels good or because it is politically correct. She felt that random murder did not happen. Her niece was murdered by -- someone with a knife. She believed that if her niece had used a weapon the murder would not Pleasanton City Council 07/12/97 Minutes 9