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Mr. Pico said this is a demonstration program. It might be determined not to continue the program in the future. He felt a decision needed to be made to proceed with the two demonstration projects, to not require a petition of the neighbors in the Mohr/Manin/Kamp area and to go ahead and install the traffic calming devices. Then at a later date, Council could make a decision as to whether to continue the process in the future. He felt all the decisions did not need to be made tonight, nor was there enough information to make all the decisions. Ms. Michelotti agreed that this is a demonstration project and that after this program went forward, Council should come back and evaluate it. She did not agree with going forward without the community buy in. She wanted to go ahead with the survey and have group meetings in the neighborhoods. Ms. Dennis felt a lot will be learned with this pilot program. She talked about traffic calming with a lot of residents in the Mohr/Martin area and along Kamp Drive, who do feel it would be a positive program. Of course, when they realized they might have to pay for the devices they thought twice about it. She felt the devices belonged to the neighborhood and the neighbors would appreciate the devices more if they had to help financially. She suggested a random enforcement program so the people do not know when the police officers would be there. She felt the people speed the most when the fewest amount of vehicles are on the road. She said it takes a conscious effort to go the speed limit. Ms. Ayala wanted to clarify the f'mancial cost. If three traffic circles are installed at $60,000 it would cost the residents $60. She felt this was a minimal amount to pay. If the residents are not willing to pay $60 then they do not really want it. She was willing to go along with the pilot program because it was already approved. Ms. Michelotti said even though the City is paying for it, the funds are really coming out of everyone' s tax dollars. Future development money could be set aside for mitigation measures for traffic calming devices to go into other neighborhoods. She said this is the first step to look at all the impacts. Mayor Tarver felt what was being proposed for the East Angela area was not very much. He said $3,000 would not go very far. He was disappointed that the Committee did not come up with more devices that would actually show people the benefits. He was not comfortable approving the citywide traffic calming program. He wanted to conceptually approve it and then bring it back at a later date to discuss in more detail. Ms. Michelotti did not have a problem with this. Mr. Pico asked if the intention is to approve staff's recommendation one and two and recommendation number three would be addressed at a follow up review. Pleasanton City Council 17 6/2/98 Minutes